little help with min betting?

[machine]

I play loads of poker and this just has never come up for me but it did the other day and wondered the ruling.

now i know that on the flop etc if someone bets 10 then the min re-raise would be by 10 more to 20 then a re-re-raise would be to 30 etc as min is the last raise. But the question is does this apply pre-flop?

for example assuming 50/100 blinds.

utg min raises to 200 now if someone wants to min re-raise what would the amount be? is it 100 more 300 total etc

or is it 200 to 400?

i think its 100 to 300 total but im confused.

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[jcl]

300. Think of the big blind as the first bet (which is why if no one calls this bet the big blind wins!).

[machine]

so your min raising the raise not the total amount right

[scpi10]

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so your min raising the raise not the total amount right

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This is the easiest way to remember it

[SDone]

I was playing with some other guys, and I made a standard raise to 12 when the blinds were 2-4. He then re-raised me... but to 16. He seemed really adament about his raise being right. I couldn't convince him that he was wrong, and this thread shold help. Thanks!

[machine]

this situation didnt come up till i played at my uni tourney where they are min raising machines then it suddenly dauned on me i wasnt sure of the ruling.

[maSkraP]

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so your min raising the raise not the total amount right

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This is the easiest way to remember it

[/ QUOTE ] Yes, definitely a min-raise is raising the the raise and not what's in the pot. So yes, to answer your question, jcl is right. it's 100 to 300. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[JH1]

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I was playing with some other guys, and I made a standard raise to 12 when the blinds were 2-4. He then re-raised me... but to 16. He seemed really adament about his raise being right. I couldn't convince him that he was wrong, and this thread shold help. Thanks!

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I've never even thought about this very much since I play almost exclusively online. His min-raise would have to be to $20 total - you raise $8 from 4 to 12 so he would have to raise another $8 from 12 to 20. Is this correct?

[Small Fry]

The minimum raise needs to equal the previous bet or raise. Or to phrase it another way if you want to raise the minimum, your bet is equal to calling the amount the previous bettor bet and then either 1.) equal his bet again, (if no raise) or 2.) match his raise amount

Examples:

A. BB = 100. Player A bets 200 (a raise of 100). If Player B wants to raise his minimum bet will be 300. The call of players A's 200 plus the raise of 100 (equal to the previous raise)See #2 above.

B. BB = 100, UTG calls. If player A wants to raise his minimum bet will be 200. UTG's bet of 100 plus a raise of $100. See #1 above

C. BB = 100. Player A bets 200. Player B makes it 350(raising player A by 150) Now if player C wants to raise his minimum bet is 500. He needs to equal the previous bet (350) and then add in the raise (150)

I find if you understand this it makes it very easy to keep track of the minimum raise required while at the table. If Player C above asked you what his minimum amount to raise was you can easily work it out. Player A bet 200, B bet 350. Thats a 150 raise added to the 350 bet makes it 500 minimum.

I've also heard of some home games where they rule the minimum riase is simply twice the previous bet. It's not entirely accurate but it makes it simple.

Good Luck