Official October Thread: General Discussion

[trplthrt]

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What is target AF factor for a reasonable TAG on occasion LAG player?

I think I found my leak.

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your leak is you care too much about a god damn number and not enough about how to play

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Uh, no

I care more about how I play, and results (which are positive), but since it is not apparent on the surface what some leaks may be I am looking at some tools which may help me see it and/or improve my game. I thought this is what these tools are meant for?!

Wtf?

[Ship Ship McGipp]

PokerStars Game #12718465966: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/10/19 - 11:36:05 (ET)
Table 'Alpheratz III' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: adlerträger ($340.50 in chips)
Seat 2: aejones ($1271.50 in chips)
aejones: posts small blind $5
adlerträger: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aejones [Td 9d]
aejones: raises $20 to $30
adlerträger: raises $20 to $50
aejones: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [7d 6s 4d]
adlerträger: bets $30
aejones: raises $1000 to $1030
adlerträger: calls $260.50 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [7d 6s 4d] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [7d 6s 4d Ks] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
adlerträger: shows [Kd 9s] (two pair, Kings and Fours)
aejones: mucks hand
adlerträger collected $680.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $681 | Rake $0.50
Board [7d 6s 4d Ks 4c]
Seat 1: adlerträger (big blind) showed [Kd 9s] and won ($680.50) with two pair, Kings and Fours
Seat 2: aejones (button) (small blind) mucked [Td 9d]

[Triumph36]

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What is target AF factor for a reasonable TAG on occasion LAG player?

I think I found my leak.

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your leak is you care too much about a god damn number and not enough about how to play

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Uh, no

I care more about how I play, and results (which are positive), but since it is not apparent on the surface what some leaks may be I am looking at some tools which may help me see it and/or improve my game. I thought this is what these tools are meant for?!

Wtf?

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I believe his point, which I think is a fair one (if said in a more polite way, but this is the [censored] thread), is that trying to get to certain numbers isn't the right way to go about things. if you think you're not being aggressive enough (and that's shown by your AF), raise and bet more. don't say 'lozl i have to get to 4.5 AF' or something asinine like that.

[jalexand42]

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PokerStars Game #12718465966: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/10/19 - 11:36:05 (ET)
Table 'Alpheratz III' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: adlerträger ($340.50 in chips)
Seat 2: aejones ($1271.50 in chips)
aejones: posts small blind $5
adlerträger: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aejones [Td 9d]
aejones: raises $20 to $30
adlerträger: raises $20 to $50
aejones: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [7d 6s 4d]
adlerträger: bets $30
aejones: raises $1000 to $1030
adlerträger: calls $260.50 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [7d 6s 4d] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [7d 6s 4d Ks] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
adlerträger: shows [Kd 9s] (two pair, Kings and Fours)
aejones: mucks hand
adlerträger collected $680.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $681 | Rake $0.50
Board [7d 6s 4d Ks 4c]
Seat 1: adlerträger (big blind) showed [Kd 9s] and won ($680.50) with two pair, Kings and Fours
Seat 2: aejones (button) (small blind) mucked [Td 9d]

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[x] soul
[x] owned

[trplthrt]

I didn't ask for a specific number that I want to hit. But if I was a 1 or a 7 and the long term reasonable rate for a winning TAG is a 2.5 I would be interested to know the range. Maybe while playing how aggressive you are being or not being is hard to notice in all sessions playing multiple tables and analyzing the data is what helps see your issues.

I don't think the question was unreasonable.. I am not looking for a specific, but a normal range for a long term winning player.

Tough crowd here in MSNL.

[g-p]

srry trplthrt just trying to make a point

i dont try to be a certain level of aggro i just take lines with hands that i think are profitable. maybe that helps.

[Yeti]

i dunno dude, 2.5, 3, 4?

i would say if its 1 you are likely doing something wrong. same with 7, but maybe not necessarily!

[g-p]

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i would say if its 1 you are likely doing something wrong. same with 7, but maybe not necessarily!

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ha yea!!

[trplthrt]

Thanks guys, 2-6 is the range ehhhh

:-)

Unless I am running some special type of poker style.

This was not as helpful as I had hoped. Oh well.

[Ship Ship McGipp]

trp, you play fken weird man. i dont' evne know why you wanna know about the numbers when you be open limping an dLRRing with like ten eight and [censored]. if i had a style that weird i would just be like "well, i guess this is working, obviously i dont' have any explanation" nad leave well enough alone.