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Old 02-16-2007, 06:00 PM
Ray_bob Ray_bob is offline
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Default Re: 77 deep 25/50

I dont understand why you dont raise on the flop. you have a great hand that is well hidden. with 78 of spades on the flop if you raise to 1250 or maybe just raise the pot. but either way your increasing the pot size with a good hand. there are a lot of scary turns that could come so without the raise on the flop your putting yourself in a very tough spot no matter what hits on the turn.
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Old 02-16-2007, 06:37 PM
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Isn't Holla@yoboy primarily a tourney player? Is this a tourney hand?

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No and no

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Fair enough - my mistake. No offense intended.
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Old 02-16-2007, 07:40 PM
MezmerizePLZ MezmerizePLZ is offline
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Default Re: 77 deep 25/50

Yea I should have raised the flop - my mistake, barring whats the best line now that its been played like this up to this point.
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Old 02-16-2007, 07:49 PM
Lefort Lefort is offline
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Default Re: 77 deep 25/50

Duuuuuuuuude with these big stacks I can't stress enough how important a flop raise is here.

As played, push. Your hand range has alot of draws in it from his POV, he could be on alot of air type hands that can outdraw you with a gay straight, and you may even get some calls from worse hands.

I highly doubt villain has a set/straight here, he doesn't want to see the turn go c-c.
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:48 PM
Moonshine Moonshine is offline
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Default Re: 77 deep 25/50

Mez,

you should really convert the hand. THe stack sizes/pot sizes are kind of important here. I didnt really take the time to add everything up before now. I think you're at the point now though where you should just shove

oh, and raise the flop this deep. this isnt the time to get fancy
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:56 AM
Enon Enon is offline
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Default Re: 77 deep 25/50

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($4925)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($9783)</font>
MP1 ($19742)
MP2 ($1507)
MP3 ($7828)
CO ($4975)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($13663)</font>
SB ($5150)
BB ($4950)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $200</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $150.

Flop: ($625) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $450</font>, Hero calls $450, BB folds.

Turn: ($1525) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1150, UTG+1 raises $2450 to $3600 (Pot: $6275)
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:51 PM
Jason Strasser (strassa2) Jason Strasser (strassa2) is offline
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Default Re: 77 deep 25/50

I call. If river pairs board im definitely not folding because I think JT probably makes up a decent % of his range. If river blanks I just guess if he pushes, I think you probably want to lay it down though.
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Old 02-18-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: 77 deep 25/50

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I call. If river pairs board im definitely not folding because I think JT probably makes up a decent % of his range. If river blanks I just guess if he pushes, I think you probably want to lay it down though.

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Strassa,

I agree but I don't think j10 is that huge because I don't think this player opens J10o utg+1 here.

Flop is fine because you need to be making both plays a % of the time. However, I agree that we should mostly be raising.
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