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#1
03-31-2007, 06:34 PM
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omg, raising war! (verylowcontent)
this is so rare to see..the purebred donkey's limit poker cap predraw + cap postdraw bluff [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Limit 5 Card Draw ($1/$2) (converter) Hero ($59.15), Seat 9 BB ($7.50), Seat 10 Button ($12.30), Seat 3 Hero posts $0.50. BB posts $1. Hero is SB with [Jh Kh 6c Js Jd] Round 1: (1.50 SB) <font color="green">Button calls. </font><font color="red">Hero raises. </font><font color="#666666">BB folds. </font><font color="red">Button raises. </font><font color="red">Hero raises. </font><font color="green">Button calls. </font> Hero discards Kh . Button takes 1. Hero has [Jh 5s 6c Js Jd] Round 2: (4.50 BB) <font color="red">Hero bets. </font><font color="red">Button raises. </font><font color="red">Hero raises. </font><font color="red">Button raises. </font><font color="green">Hero calls. </font> Pot: (12.50 BB - $25) Results: (in white) <font color="white">Pot: $25, (including rake: $1.25) Button shows [ 8C,9D,7D,10C,7C ] Hero shows [ JH,5S,6C,JS,JD ] </font> wow. this guy CAPPED IT! was i going to fold [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] i [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 1/2 limit 
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#3
03-31-2007, 08:08 PM
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Stupid I-don\'t-play-draw-often questions
Why discard the K instead of the 6?
Is villain more likely to hold one? Is it pretty much irrelevant when trying to fill with the trips already in hand? Does anyone draw 2 for quads here, or is that too transparent?
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#4
03-31-2007, 08:22 PM
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Re: Stupid I-don\'t-play-draw-often questions
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Why discard the K instead of the 6? Is villain more likely to hold one? Is it pretty much irrelevant when trying to fill with the trips already in hand? Does anyone draw 2 for quads here, or is that too transparent? [/ QUOTE ] villain is much more likely to hold a king than a 6, so its a slightly improved chance to go for the lower card over time drawing 2 makes it too transparent, and wont get proper value out of 2 pair for the most part. edit: and really, it doesnt make much a difference which you choose. lets see if i remember right. having trips and drawing one you are 7% to improve, drawing 2 is 10% only due to the extra quad draw. the times you et paid off drawin 1 by 2 pair or even 1 pair putting you on a missed draw makes up for it
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#5
03-31-2007, 08:43 PM
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Re: Stupid I-don\'t-play-draw-often questions
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[ QUOTE ] Why discard the K instead of the 6? Is villain more likely to hold one? Is it pretty much irrelevant when trying to fill with the trips already in hand? Does anyone draw 2 for quads here, or is that too transparent? [/ QUOTE ] villain is much more likely to hold a king than a 6, so its a slightly improved chance to go for the lower card over time [/ QUOTE ] What villain holds is irrelevant. You aren't getting a card that he discards, so it makes no difference which card you discard. I always hold the higher card just so I don't have to think about deciding which one to discard. If I'm missing something here, somebody please let me know [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img].
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#6
03-31-2007, 08:50 PM
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Re: Stupid I-don\'t-play-draw-often questions
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why discard the K instead of the 6? Is villain more likely to hold one? Is it pretty much irrelevant when trying to fill with the trips already in hand? Does anyone draw 2 for quads here, or is that too transparent? [/ QUOTE ] villain is much more likely to hold a king than a 6, so its a slightly improved chance to go for the lower card over time [/ QUOTE ] What villain holds is irrelevant. You aren't getting a card that he discards, so it makes no difference which card you discard. I always hold the higher card just so I don't have to think about deciding which one to discard. If I'm missing something here, somebody please let me know [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]. [/ QUOTE ] I think the idea is that if he's more likely to have a king, then there's less of a chance that there are 3 kings in the deck and so less of a chance that you'll pair your king.
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#7
03-31-2007, 08:51 PM
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Re: Stupid I-don\'t-play-draw-often questions
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why discard the K instead of the 6? Is villain more likely to hold one? Is it pretty much irrelevant when trying to fill with the trips already in hand? Does anyone draw 2 for quads here, or is that too transparent? [/ QUOTE ] villain is much more likely to hold a king than a 6, so its a slightly improved chance to go for the lower card over time [/ QUOTE ] What villain holds is irrelevant. You aren't getting a card that he discards, so it makes no difference which card you discard. I always hold the higher card just so I don't have to think about deciding which one to discard. If I'm missing something here, somebody please let me know [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]. [/ QUOTE ] if hes capping predraw (lets assime hes not this guy though) how many hands does he hold where he owuld hold a king, as opposed to a six? dont really care to list em individually, but the king is going to be in more hands then a random low card
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#8
03-31-2007, 09:56 PM
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Re: Stupid I-don\'t-play-draw-often questions
Yeah, that is true. I'm going to discard the K in this situation from now on, but the difference should be extremely negligible.
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#10
04-01-2007, 11:47 AM
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Re: Stupid I-don\'t-play-draw-often questions
this doesnt happen that much at 1/2. What i'd like to know biglimpin is how you felt confident enough to 3 bet the JJJ postdraw. After his raise I'd put him on a made draw (even though he was willing to cap predraw), or higher trips, or made full house.
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