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Old 08-22-2007, 12:03 PM
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Default 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

I was playing at a friends house so i dont have the HH, please excuse this...

Roothlus knows i respect his game, as i wished him gl when he joined our table. We have only played 2 pots against each other prior to this pot. They were 2 big coinflip type spots in the rebuy period, so im not sure how much this should matter. I was fortunate enough to win the 2nd leaving us close to even in chips.

Onto the hand...2nd hour just started i have TT in the CO
@75/150 with 12k stack, Roothlus covers by ~4k.


Folded around to me
I raise to 450
button folds
sb folds
Roothlus INSTA re-rs to 1500
Hero ???

This is probably pretty simple/standard but i felt like i was in a bad spot no matter what i did. Folding seems too weak in that if i am folding TT in LP to his BB resteals i will almost never be able to play back at him.

If i just call surely i will be sometimes giving up when i have the best hand and i hate many flops. Also i do not think i have odds to draw to a set here, is this correct?

4 betting seems to let him play perfectly against me, although depending on how seriously he is taking this specific 5re it may be best...

This option opened a whole new situation i was unsure of how to approach, if i 4 bet how much? If i 4 bet, am i committed to calling a shove?

What would you guys do here and could you explain why?

Thanks, sorry if this is messy
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

Surely someone has some input on this hand besides the HS'MTTr who was kind enough to reply via PM right?

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Old 08-24-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

draw to a set, you have the odds.
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

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draw to a set, you have the odds.

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Thanks for replying. Assuming we play it this way, are we only going to continue with the hand if the flop contains a T?
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

pretty standard call here, be wary as he is not going to be light all that often here
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

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draw to a set, you have the odds.

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Thanks for replying. Assuming we play it this way, are we only going to continue with the hand if the flop contains a T?

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We can call a c-bet on a low/ok flops and give up on the turn. These spots suck because I just don't think he has 99 here very often, if ever.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

I am calling and playing the flop. You may not like some flops, but with position, you can play this correctly.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

reraise you are a late position raiser roothlus is a top player he could be restealing w a variety of hands, this is not a bad spot you are in this is a positive ev situatuion to get your chips in. callingallows you to be outplyed folding is absurd
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

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draw to a set, you have the odds.

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Thanks for replying. Assuming we play it this way, are we only going to continue with the hand if the flop contains a T?

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We can call a c-bet on a low/ok flops and give up on the turn. These spots suck because I just don't think he has 99 here very often, if ever.

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This was how i felt at the table and using my gorilla math i somehow decided i didnt have set value and folded.

I really appreciate the feedback so far, but i still had a question about pokerstove. I am trying to figure what is a reasonable range for roothlus here, how does this sound; AQo+, AJs+, KQs, 88+, and maybe some random stuff like 75s or T9s.

Am i approaching this correctly?
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: 5 rebuy pf spot vs. Roothlus

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reraise you are a late position raiser roothlus is a top player he could be restealing w a variety of hands, this is not a bad spot you are in this is a positive ev situatuion to get your chips in. callingallows you to be outplyed folding is absurd

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Why is calling bad? It just doesn't make any sense to re-raise, it makes him to correctly play with many hands.
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