What to do with ATs preflop

[veganmav]

preflop utg+1 raises in 6max, you have ATs on button

utg+1 is avg abc tag, slight winner.
BB is fish

[Verde]

I fold, but I'm a nit.

[StellarWind]

I would usually 3-bet ATo in this spot. It's a marginal situation.

[TonyDanza]

I like a 3bet here, but I will adjust here based on:
1) how easily he releases on the flop or turn, as well as wtsd%.
2) my image - how much I have been raising and what hands I have shown down,
3) how light I have seen him raise here before,
4) some other factors I can't think of now.

If he is really tight and showdown bound, I just fold and hope there are better players at the table to 3bet. If there aren't such players, I find a new table.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

i 3b all day

[surfdoc]

3rd floor.

[Neko]

agree with everything TonyDanza says. I think I am usually folding A9s here and 3 betting ATs most of the time.

[6471849653]

Just got from reading one marginal question and then see this. What does it matter?

Seriously, AT is a classic no-value hand that has been said by Skalansky some hundred years ago, and from T.J. we know that the hand being suited should be a no-factor when it comes to figuring if one should play the hand, though he gives some extra value to AJs, AQs and maybe ATs. But basically AT/ATs should never be played when there is enough doubt as they don't have enough value even if they do happen to flop a hand.

[Neko]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but if the ev of ATs in this situation is exactly zero then I would suspect you should be playing it everytime rather than never.

[TonyDanza]

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but if the ev of ATs in this situation is exactly zero then I would suspect you should be playing it everytime rather than never.

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I agree with this. If ATs on its own has zero EV, then 3betting it here will, at a minimum increase our expectation on our bigger hands. This is especially true against a TAG villain, who will assign us a larger 3betting range.