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Old 07-13-2007, 11:42 AM
ShipitFMA ShipitFMA is offline
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Default 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

<font color="blue">Villian is 17 / 11 / 13 over 85 hands</font>

I don't really know what i thought of his bet into me, but i figured if he had a set and i raised him to 10 he'd repop to ~30ish putting me in a very tough spot..


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $89.60
BB: $70.33
UTG: $52.69
MP: $80.57
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $152.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6 4 (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 3 2 A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3.00</font>, Hero ???


How do you play this hand from here

Note: Once again, im currently in the process of moving UP to 50nl, so i may not play for draws as aggressively to begin with
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

We have odds. Our hand is fairly disguised. And we don't want to get raised. I think a call is perfect.
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

Free card play?
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

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Free card play?

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The hand is disguised already. But we dont want to get raised. We can call any turn. And we still look like a weak ace.

Only one issue with this play. A donkbet is fairly often a draw pricing itself. A cold call followed by a turn raise from a preflop raiser is a very scary move, not many hands can call here. And if you do, you still have lots of outs.
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

Easy raise - villains range here is heavily weighted towards 22-JJ, sometimes AJ.
He bets either because a) he has a monster (unlikely), or b) he wants to know where he is at (very likely).

Tell him he is screwed -&gt; win monies.

(fwiw I'd raise with any two here)
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:35 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

how often does he lead? I would tend towards call here.
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

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how often does he lead? I would tend towards call here.

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I actually havn't seen him play many pots, but he seems quite solid
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:45 PM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

Implied odds with flushdraws are overrated. Everyone slows down when the third card hits. The benefit of raising is huge, as villain will fold tons of better hands - in fact I can only see him continue with AK/22/33/45.
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

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in fact I can only see him continue with AK/22/33/45.

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You cant be serious are you?

AXc? KQc... amongst others with some of the clowns here
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: 50nl 140bb deep, bet into on flop with gutshot SFD

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in fact I can only see him continue with AK/22/33/45.

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You cant be serious are you?

AXc? KQc... amongst others with some of the clowns here

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He is pretty tight so I think he will fold KcQc and hands like Ac5c preflop.
AcJc is definitely possible.
But even if he did call preflop with those hands I still think a raise is good, as we will get folds from 44-JJ, maybe even AJ.
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