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Old 04-12-2006, 03:55 PM
roamer590 roamer590 is offline
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Default 3,30+R 10K Stars - Call or not ?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t15265)
UTG+1 (t33525)
MP1 (t17310)
MP2 (t2210)
MP3 (t5435)
CO (t9180)
Button (t19820)
SB (t14050)
BB (t14940)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t600</font>, UTG+1 calls t600, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t1500) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t1000</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t32925 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero ?</font>
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Old 04-12-2006, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: 3,30+R 10K Stars - Call or not ?

This is why you don't raise A8o UTG let alone play it all. Fold, you're behind probably 90% of the time.
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Old 04-12-2006, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: 3,30+R 10K Stars - Call or not ?

I would call and start up another tourny. An almost exact same situation happened to me a few months back with the only differences being the positions at the table. When I called, I fully expected to be starting up another tourny, but just couldn't find a reason why a better hand than mine would make this play, so I called. The donkey had K6o and I doubled up.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: 3,30+R 10K Stars - Call or not ?

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This is why you don't raise A8o UTG let alone play it all. Fold, you're behind probably 90% of the time.

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I totally diagree. So many rebuy players don't change gears and will do this with crap. I would fully expect to see an Ax or even Kx. I completely disregard his hand as being AK or KK. KK being more likely, since he might fear being outboated on a later street, but AK is not going to discourage action. If villain has Ax and x is larger than 8, you still have a good chance that you will be splitting pot. I think worst case scenario here would be a coin flip with villain having somthing like JT of clubs and having 12 outs to his flush and gutshot.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: 3,30+R 10K Stars - Call or not ?

i did fold, but i kinda regret it.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: 3,30+R 10K Stars - Call or not ?

Im thinking he has a weak ace or a K here....who wouldn't try to get more money out of their hand here if he did have the nuts- allin with 30k seems crazy- unless he's one step ahead of u.

But your raise PF sucks. Sorry.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:06 PM
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Im thinking he has a weak ace or a K here....who wouldn't try to get more money out of their hand here if he did have the nuts- allin with 30k seems crazy- unless he's one step ahead of u.

But your raise PF sucks. Sorry.

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I agree, preflop sucks. UTG, yuck. LP, fine.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: 3,30+R 10K Stars - Call or not ?

fold PF.
I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER FOLD THIS FLOP. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: 3,30+R 10K Stars - Call or not ?

I don't think many people bet 10 times the pot when they want a call. I call and expect to see Kx, a lower pair, or a flush draw.
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Old 04-12-2006, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 3,30+R 10K Stars - Call or not ?

I agree that you shouldn't raise preflop here from that position.

And don't fold postflop unless you have a real good read on the raiser. I think the general high donkey factor in the $3 rebuy mandates a call without a read.
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