How is this shove?

Hollywade · #1 11-23-2007, 04:45 PM

$15,000 Guarantee (Rebuy)
Final two tables

The button was recently the dominant chip leader at this table. However, he has already doubled me up twice. The first time was my A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] against his Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. The second time was my AQ vs. A10. This hand happened soon after.

I knew he would love to bust me. In this situation, I was quite confident that I had the best hand. The CO raise to less than 3x the BB didn't really concern me too much. Also, I didn't figure the button would be interested in trapping with a monster there after just losing a huge chunk of chips to me.

I suppose I could have popped it to 60k or so and then shove the flop, but I just decided shoving it all preflop was the better play. What do you guys think?

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Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 2,500/5,000 Blinds, 600 Ante, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG+2: 155,806
MP1: 197,200
MP2: 119,769
CO: 110,369
BTN: 186,471
SB: 112,742
Hero (BB): 149,800
UTG: 98,870
UTG+1: 263,906

Pre-Flop: (12,900) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
5 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to 13,000</font>, BTN calls 13,000, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 149,200 and is All-In</font>

gtpitch · #2 11-23-2007, 05:27 PM

I don't mind this shove. Its not a horrible move. Maybe a little bit of an overbet but not horrible. My concern would be the villains calling range. How tight was the villain? Is his range for calling a shove TT+, AQs+, AK? Or might be be looser than that?

bokunori · #3 11-23-2007, 05:37 PM

I go for it. There's a good 34K out there, with both villains having quite wide ranges.

Raising to 60K: Likely tightens their ranges, making your hand look less like a squeeze. (You likely aren't folding after doing that, obv.)

Shoving: Loosens their ranges. Your hand looks a lot like a squeeze, raising a CO open and BTN call.

I think, whether you shove or put 60K in, you're likely getting action from hands you beat (TT+), so I shove hoping to possibly look like AK / AQ, and maybe get some action from 88 / 77, also.

Adding in your read of BTN, shoving looks really good to me here.

Hollywade · #4 11-23-2007, 05:57 PM

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I shove hoping to possibly look like AK / AQ, and maybe get some action from 88 / 77, also

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Bingo. That's what I was thinking.