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Star Player 14 77.78%
Head Coach 4 22.22%
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:44 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

Villian is 55/8/.9 over JUST 23 hands.

Edit: Oh btw converter doesn't take out rake. Pot on the flop is like $9 or something so my flop bet isn't really that small.



So I'm pretty comfortable with my decision here, but I'm wondering what people are going to say. I'm going to add a poll and put up some options.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($18)
Hero ($50)
BB ($64)
UTG ($41.85)
MP ($64.20)
CO ($9.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $2.50, Button calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6.75</font>, UTG calls $6.75, Button folds.

Turn: ($23) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

i voted c/f. it's a spot i def. have trouble with, and none of the other options sound good except for bet/fold (preferably smaller amount i guess). now go comment on my thread since you must be awesome (i saw your bbv thread) [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

I'd be curious to see some more comments on this one. I went ahead and voted for bet 14 to 17 and fold to a raise. I'm the only one so far [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] My thought is with a .9 AF he's fairly passive so I don't think he pushes a flush draw over the top too often, more likely it's a Qx hand when that happens. We'll be getting 68:15 odds if he pushes though, so I'm not sure I can fold after some more thought.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

I actually said bet 8-11 and fold to a shove, even though I'm not a huge fan of such weak bets.

Villain isn't very aggressive, so he's unlikely to pounce on our weakness with a draw/air, so if he raises, we can safely say we are likely drawing very thin and can fold. If he calls, we can check call a blank river to induce a bluff, check fold if the draw hits. We also might get called by a weaker underpair/middle pair with this small bet, and extract some value from this loose villain.

However, I see now that there are two draws, the straight and the flush. This means there are fewer river cards we welcome and it's harder to know if villain hit, so maybe I would just check fold citing reverse implied odds...
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

Bump, this deserves more discussion. It's a common spot, we raise out of the blinds preflop hoping to take it down now or with a c-bet on the flop with a semi strong hand, but meet resistance. Any more thoughts?
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

Against an opponent like this(I know small sample size yadda yadda ya), half pot and turbomuck to a raise. If he calls I'd check/fold river, this guy prob doesn't bluff missed draws.
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Old 10-25-2007, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

I would spend the extra $3 to get respect/a true reaction.

Since you had a 10 buy-in day I guess you can do no wrong right?

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Old 10-25-2007, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

[ QUOTE ]
I would spend the extra $3 to get respect/a true reaction.

Since you had a 10 buy-in day I guess you can do no wrong right?

[img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

A 14 buy-in day [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] plus a little more.


I don't wanna give away results on this though. Maybe tomorrow a conversation can get going especially since the votes look a little split. So I'll try to post ym thoughts on it tomorrow.
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Old 10-25-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

I usually b/f about 12-14 here. If he has balls enough to shove a draw here he can have the pot.
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Old 10-25-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; TT OOP on 8c6sQsQh board

Weak bet/fold to push.
With a .9 aggression factor it's unlikely he's going to get out of line with a draw or a bluff here. We also save the extra money as opposed to bet/folding for $14-$17
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