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STANFORD SUCKS 5 33.33%
YSSCKY 5 33.33%
XXX 5 33.33%
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

I like calling and shoving a lot of flops. 4betting is pretty meh, you're going to get looked up pretty lightly.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

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CO is otisrush, 30/15/weirdo.

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hes really really horrible unthinking player who doesnt fold and will always assume you are full of it. For that reason id fold. He is so god damn exploitable its not even funny.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:06 PM
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lol im a moron. i thought you were being squeezed, not the coldcaller. if youd 3bet smallish here, id put you on air or a small PP. (55-99)
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:07 PM
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CO is otisrush, 30/15/weirdo.

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hes really really horrible unthinking player who doesnt fold and will always assume you are full of it. For that reason id fold. He is so god damn exploitable its not even funny.

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CO folded
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:08 PM
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lol im a moron. i thought you were being squeezed, not the coldcaller. if youd 3bet smallish here, id put you on air or a small PP. (55-99)

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4bet, and ok.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

jfish - isn't determining how your 4bet looks the key to this hand?

ae - obviously he's most likely folding his junk squeezes, but i was saying there's a certain (and common) type of player who immediately will think you have a marginal hand (whether incorrectly or correctly) and shove a wider range (say he 3betted with A8s or 88-99 or AJo who knows)

fwiw, i think the best option is to call, but shoving is a more than viable option if his ranges are right (i don't expect him to fold AQ+/JJ+ ever)
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:15 PM
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lol im a moron. i thought you were being squeezed, not the coldcaller. if youd 3bet smallish here, id put you on air or a small PP. (55-99)

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4bet, and ok.

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oh yeah, 4bet, sry. would you ever coldcall a big pair or AK to induce a squeeze? i figure you would, does villain know this?
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:16 PM
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lol im a moron. i thought you were being squeezed, not the coldcaller. if youd 3bet smallish here, id put you on air or a small PP. (55-99)

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4bet, and ok.

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oh yeah, 4bet, sry. would you ever coldcall a big pair or AK to induce a squeeze? i figure you would, does villain know this?

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who cares if he does
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:17 PM
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

call and play back on flop seems like the best the options in your poll. unsure if its better than folding though. AT sucks, even though its sooted.

4-betting in this spot works if villain is of the sort to pull back a bit when he encounters something strange, and will probably read it for strength. If he's stubbornly overaggro and will just shove anything, then dont do that. Obv if you 4-bet either way, you need to fold to a shove.
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