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Old 08-27-2007, 05:53 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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I'd just lead the river. And if I've got a bluffy image then I c/r the flop all day.

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cts, i REALLY hate leading the river here.

if you check the turn the river is a mandatory check, imo
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:02 PM
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I'd just lead the river. And if I've got a bluffy image then I c/r the flop all day.

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cts, i REALLY hate leading the river here.

if you check the turn the river is a mandatory check, imo

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So do you like check raising or just calling the river?
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:05 PM
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I'd just lead the river. And if I've got a bluffy image then I c/r the flop all day.

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cts, i REALLY hate leading the river here.

if you check the turn the river is a mandatory check, imo

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So do you like check raising or just calling the river?

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check raise for SURE

but i like CC flop donk turn the best i think, cr sometimes if the guy is prone to not believe me, and this line right around the same-

i hate cc, chch, bet-
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:19 PM
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i think this is an interesting hand
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:31 PM
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I'm a big fan of river check raises for value, but I don't like it in this spot where villain can have you beat and you will be stuck. People talking about villain having 99, if hero led villain would always raise that and you win the same amount. He's simply not going to call a river check-raise with something like AJ, and this player I don't see bluffing the river with air extremely often (he's a bit weak tight). So by leading I think you would get a similar amount of value from most of his hands and avoid losing a whole stack if he backdoored a straight (although I would assume he would 2 barrel KQ almost always). I would like it if the river were a card from 2-8.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:53 PM
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Flop is way standard. C/ring here is pretty meh, with the board crippled.

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disagree. its a dry board and in the games we play nobody believes anybody else anyway. building a pot is better than "letting him catch up" imo.

honestly i think this line is fine to mix it up but theres no way you can call it standard man.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:02 PM
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Flop is way standard. C/ring here is pretty meh, with the board crippled.

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disagree. its a dry board and in the games we play nobody believes anybody else anyway. building a pot is better than "letting him catch up" imo.

honestly i think this line is fine to mix it up but theres no way you can call it standard man.

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i dont c/r much with trash, so i dont see much of a reason to do it when i have a set. how you play your big hands should really depend on how you play your not so big hands
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:03 AM
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i agree w/ that.
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:51 AM
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Flop is way standard. C/ring here is pretty meh, with the board crippled.

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disagree. its a dry board and in the games we play nobody believes anybody else anyway. building a pot is better than "letting him catch up" imo.

honestly i think this line is fine to mix it up but theres no way you can call it standard man.

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Meh, there are so many ways that a turn card can help you: it might induce a bluff, give him a draw that he might chase with bad odds/semi-bluff with, catch top pair/two pair/underset, give him a draw to put you on. Only a few down sides: Overcards might fall for a pair/overpair.

Really the only hands that are affected at all by what we do are overpairs that might get scared off by a few turn cards, and overcards/air, which we're generally happy to give a freebee too, as it gives him some rope.

Given PF, I def think c/c flop lead lots of turns, but check some of them (particularly A and K) is a great line.
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:05 PM
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this is why you need to coach me! i hardly slowplay oop. even on dry boards :/.
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