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Old 07-19-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default KJo early position equity

ok i have been contemplating this for quite sometime and dont have a hand history database to show the equity.

currently im dealing with about 50k hands spread over various limits and betting structures.

i was wondering if someone wouldnt mind helping me out with the equity of KJ in EP at a full ring 2/4 or 3/6 game in a typical game with typical 3/6 opponents.

i dont know whether this hand is more profitable if we raise, limp, or fold it in the long run. it seems like everytime this hand situation comes up for me i cringe and dont know how to play it correctly. i am semi confident in my post flop play with it but i would like to know how other players view this hand

also if you have any typical lines for this hand if you wouldnt mind posting a HH that would be great. i hope this post gets a lot of feedback because i am sure that i am not the only person out there not completely sure how to play this hand in this spot.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:20 AM
Allday Everyday Allday Everyday is offline
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Default Re: KJo early position equity

I think this is an easy preflop fold from early postion in a SS FR online game. I wouldn't consider open raising it until MP in a tight preflop game. I'd still often fold it there.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: KJo early position equity

it's a tough borderline hand. it obviously depends on game conditions. kjo i tend to muck in ep, and open in mp if folded to me. kjs can be the same but sometimes i'll open that in ep. i think in the long run it's a slighly winning hand. i can check my pt dbs if you want
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: KJo early position equity

i would appreciate it if it is possible for you to post some numbers. because i do not have a lot of hands to compare it with but im looking at stoxtraders book and it says only drom mid pos. to play it


so let me know that would be great. if u feel more comfortable to just PM me the info thats fine because im just tryin to define my game a lot more.

thanks bigbadbabar
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:28 AM
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pm sent
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:01 AM
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Default Re: KJo early position equity

fold early, raise mid first-in
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: KJo early position equity

in typical tag games - fold anywhere before MP
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:00 AM
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Default Re: KJo early position equity

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fold early, raise mid first-in

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This is what I used to do but then I got Stox's book and he says to start open raising it in MP3...

OP: If you want numbers then download Poker Stove and play around with various situations. Generally the hand doesn't play very well in EP though unless you are in a small stakes live game where you usually have 6+ players seeing the flop.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:23 AM
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nied, it's the same thing
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:28 AM
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nied, it's the same thing

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If you mean when to open raise KJo there is a big difference between mp1 and mp3.
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