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Old 06-03-2007, 04:21 AM
PBJaxx PBJaxx is offline
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Button is 20/16 and solid reg.

5/10 - 100BB eff stacks
Pre-flop: Hero has A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls $10, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises to $80, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls

Flop ($480): A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button bets $280, hero?

I don't really like my flop check, but now that I have am here, what can I do? Raise or call, my hand is pretty transparent. This spot suffers from some RIO shiz now. Obviously, I have to get the money in, but what is the best way?

Edit: Obviously, everyone is gonna say "shove wtf," but I think this is a pretty nasty RIO spot. Please explain to me why this is wrong (if it is).
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:56 AM
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c/c down and let him try to bluff you off KK?
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:58 AM
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call. check turn. make a bet as large as you think he will call on the river. you have the nuts.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:02 AM
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shoving is dumb, i call and I like the flop check
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:19 AM
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lol at this hand having bad RIO.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:08 PM
AcTiOnJaCsOn AcTiOnJaCsOn is offline
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flop check is really good i think
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:32 PM
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lol at this hand having bad RIO.

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Thanks for contributing, Jay.

To everyone else, I did call flop and c/c turn. I assume my hand looks exactly like ATs+ or QQ-KK, but there isn't much else I can do.

I figure I only get value from a bluff or Axs. Generally, nobody is putting any money in here with any likely pre-flop holdings except for 33 or Axs. If we c/c down, we might get some bluffs too, and there is so much money in pre-flop that we always stack off here.
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:37 PM
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i think we have to kind of stack off

i think c/c is best, and then i'd probably c/r turn all in depending on the size of the bet
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:44 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Sorry for the derisive comments but I really think you thinking this hand has bad RIO is kinda silly. Likely hands that beat you - 33 (3 combos), ummmmmm, thats about it. He obviously doesn't have AQ/AK, there are no combos of A3s if you look at the hand again, would he call the preflop raise with A3o (Even if he would there are only 3 combos)? I pretty much assume my hand is the nuts here.
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Old 06-03-2007, 04:10 PM
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WTF is RIO?

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