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Old 05-10-2007, 11:03 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default JTo otb, simple turn spot

vs unknown 35/0/2 after 35 hands. no notes, old hands so i have no idea about him. i just sat a few hands ago.

flop is obvious right?

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, what now? if call, fold river ui?
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: JTo otb, simple turn spot

Fold turn because I feel like someone with weirdish stats like this is way more likely to turn out to be a loose passive than an aggressive player of any kind.

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Looking at it again I guess it's actually pretty close. The problem for me is that I don't want to fold the river if I call the turn.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: JTo otb, simple turn spot

I think you just have the odds to call here.
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: JTo otb, simple turn spot

I'd call with odds and probably call river too. But I like I've mentioned in your other thread I'm terrible on the river in small pots with marginal hands. Clearly this is a river fold. But the turn is a call given your outs and what the pot is laying.
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:15 AM
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i called and folded the river.
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:17 AM
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Default Re: JTo otb, simple turn spot

Is a raise bad?
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:19 AM
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i think raising the turn is terrible. anyone else?
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:29 AM
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yeah Turn raise is bad &gt; raising the Flop is an option though because you can take a feecard &gt; go cheaply to sd and if he 3 bets you know you have to imrpove
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:55 AM
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Probably is bad, and my default play is to call and fold the river UI.
Just want to hear all the reasons for not raising.
If he 3bets it's terrible, true, guess we have to call due to the odds gettin 9-1. Then fold the river UI, but if he hit we gain at least one extra bet.

Help me out if my estimations or presentation is wrong and/or useless... But this is how I think he would play his possible hands.

A bare ace he'll call 100%: Pretty bad, but we have outs and can use it to value raise in other hands.
A5 he'll 3bet 20% and call 80%...?: Really bad, but we have outs to the nuts or trips
AJ, AK, a set, 3bet around 90%..: Really bad, but 4 outs
A pocket pair below Jacks will call 20% fold the rest.: Good the times he calls.
A draw might call but that's what we would want.: Good
A bluff will fold, we wont get bluffed out the pot.: Good
A Jack will mostly fold, he probably wouldn't invest more money anyway. : OK
QJ won't fold but we prob wouldn't get more money from him anyway. : Bad
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: JTo otb, simple turn spot

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i called and folded the river.


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Thats what I would do

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i think raising the turn is terrible. anyone else?

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I agree. There is no value in a raise and a better hand is never folding.
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