5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet

PBJaxx · #1 05-10-2007, 12:50 AM

Villain is 32/12/2 fish. I haven't seen him get too out of line over ~400 hands. This is the 2nd time I have seen him 3bet. Hero is running at 22/18, and I know he doesn't respect my cbets, FWIW.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
UTG ($891.25)
MP ($1082.75)
Hero ($1717.85)
Button ($207)
SB ($1017)
BB ($1732.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $45, 1 fold, SB calls $40, BB raises to $190, 1 fold, Hero calls $145, SB folds.

Flop: ($435) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $435, Hero calls $435.

Turn: ($1305) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($1305) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $350

As for preflop, I would often 4bet, but this guy is not crazy preflop, and I doubt he knows what a squeeze is. I am 99.9% sure this guy never C/Rs me on the river as a bluff, so I am folding if he shoves.

FionnMac · #2 05-10-2007, 12:57 AM

I don't think this is that thin since you've played the hand so passively (though correct, so far). I'd bet like $650 on the river, if he's a fish i doubt he's folding QQ.

ArturiusX · #3 05-10-2007, 12:59 AM

Make it 700 instead.

soah · #4 05-10-2007, 12:59 AM

If he's never out of line or squeezing then I'd just fold to him pf

but given how the hand played out I don't see how a bet is thin at all, although it illustrates why AK pretty much sucks for implied odds

PBJaxx · #5 05-10-2007, 01:04 AM

TBH, I don't think he calls a larger bet with QQ here. Villain is a weird animal, and I don't know if I have ever seen him call a largish river bet.

I may not have a good enough read on the river to make that judgement, though.

PBJaxx · #6 05-10-2007, 01:04 AM

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it illustrates why AK pretty much sucks for implied odds

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Absolutely.

KingGordy · #7 05-10-2007, 01:06 AM

I like the way you played this OP, including the river bet sizing.

ikestoys · #8 05-10-2007, 01:09 AM

I'm not so sure, if villain is any good, your hand is face up. If you can get him to call with QQ congrats...

PBJaxx · #9 05-10-2007, 01:11 AM

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I'm not so sure, if villain is any good, your hand is face up. If you can get him to call with QQ congrats...

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I agree that my hand is face up. Villain is definitely not good, but my line is VERY transparent, and that is why I think the bet is thin. Do you bet larger or check behind here?

ikestoys · #10 05-10-2007, 01:13 AM

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I'm not so sure, if villain is any good, your hand is face up. If you can get him to call with QQ congrats...

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I agree that my hand is face up. Villain is definitely not good, but my line is VERY transparent, and that is why I think the bet is thin. Do you bet larger or check behind here?

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As you say its pretty villain dep, I think its ok against this guy, but in general bleh.