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Old 05-31-2006, 07:21 AM
Beachman42 Beachman42 is offline
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Default Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?

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I don't know. I'm a sucker for draws and if it were me, I'd be getting my chips in here 150% of the time. I'm trying to be logical here though.



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We're not in a comfortable spot (10bb), there's enough money in the pot, and it's a big enough draw where I'm fine getting called or calling.

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Ehh, since I agree with A_J's analysis, I think I shove here on the flop. I am indifferent if I get called by A-rag or whatever. Picking up the pot right here isn't the worst option as villian may have a wierd re-draw.
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:23 AM
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I don't know. I'm a sucker for draws and if it were me, I'd be getting my chips in here 150% of the time. I'm trying to be logical here though.



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We're not in a comfortable spot (10bb), there's enough money in the pot, and it's a big enough draw where I'm fine getting called or calling.

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Ummm... Effective stacks are 20+BB.
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:24 AM
A_Junglen A_Junglen is offline
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Default Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?

Obv it's my brain that's fried.

Ummmm, yea, I'm still betting 3/4.
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:25 AM
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Default Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?

I don't think Villain would necessarily be committed after a reraise, but I could be wrong.

Lead 5k, get reraised to 15ishk, push 55k. I think we have SOME FE there, even if it's not much.
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Old 05-31-2006, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?


How often do you see a bluff c/r from the PFR?

Bet 10kish, be happy getting it in.
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Old 05-31-2006, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?

You don't need to bet huge but make a decent attempt at the pot-- something in the 8k range. Be happy getting all in no matter how it comes, even if you have to call a check raise push as he stands up and shoves over his stacks into the middle of the felt.
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Old 05-31-2006, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?

I bet 9000, He CR pushes on me...
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Old 05-31-2006, 04:48 PM
La Brujita La Brujita is offline
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Default Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?

chances are really good he has qq or aa but even against those hands, eyeball math you have odds to call so its an easy call

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1758686
pokenum -h jh th - - qc qs -- ah qh 6s
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 6s Ah Qh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Jh Th 344 34.75 646 65.25 0 0.00 0.347
Qs Qc 646 65.25 344 34.75 0 0.00 0.653
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Old 05-31-2006, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?

Is it wrong to check it to take a card? The villain's raise preflop and check on a flop that contains an Ace and a Queen is strange. Why not check here and take the free card? Why risk all your chips on flush/gut draw? The post above shows that you will win 35% of the time against a set of queens, so why put a lot of chips in hoping that you either steal the pot or catch?
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?

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The post above shows that you will win 35% of the time against a set of queens, so why put a lot of chips in hoping that you either steal the pot or catch?

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Well he doesnt always have a set of queens here.
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