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05-31-2006, 04:30 AM
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Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?
Played 2 orbits, but no real reads on villan
Blinds 1500/3000 ante 75 mp(72,000) makes it 6600 Hero(67,000) calls from button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] HU flop- A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Villan checks whats your plan? What about the turn? -LL 
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#2
05-31-2006, 04:38 AM
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Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?
i think this is a very borderline float preflop, but this is the pot calling the kettle black because i float all the time in questionable places.
after he checks an ace high flop after you float that is just license to steal. bet 60-80% of the flop. you will take it down most of the time.
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#3
05-31-2006, 04:41 AM
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Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?
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i think this is a very borderline float preflop, but this is the pot calling the kettle black because i float all the time in questionable places. after he checks an ace high flop after you float that is just license to steal. bet 60-80% of the flop. you will take it down most of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Agree...But his check is defintly strange...Id be interested to see your opinion in the actual hand, But Ill wait for a few more responses -LL
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#4
05-31-2006, 05:25 AM
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Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?
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i think this is a very borderline float preflop, but this is the pot calling the kettle black because i float all the time in questionable places. after he checks an ace high flop after you float that is just license to steal. bet 60-80% of the flop. you will take it down most of the time. [/ QUOTE ] What's wrong with the PF call? As for the play, I think he's dying to C/R us here, so give him the chance. Weak lead 6-7k, not too much or else he'll be able to shove. Then 3-bet all-in.
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#6
05-31-2006, 07:14 AM
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Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?
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I think he's dying to C/R us here, so give him the chance. Weak lead 6-7k, not too much or else he'll be able to shove. Then 3-bet all-in. [/ QUOTE ] You're not getting better hands to fold that c/r us. I bet 3/4pot on the flop and intend to get the rest in. I don't hate shoving, but based on reads (in this case none, but in general) bet in whatever manner gives us most FE.
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#7
05-31-2006, 07:14 AM
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Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?
Then it's a pretty massive overbet and I think I'd feel comfortable ruling out a set here - or at least bumping down the frequency of it.
Which leads to me calling. That being said, with the pot at ~16k, if we bet 8-10k as Brujita suggested, a reraise all-in would be correct with any of the hands in Villain's preflop range. That's why I like the weaker lead as it makes such a play from Villain awkward. I don't know. I'm a sucker for draws and if it were me, I'd be getting my chips in here 150% of the time. I'm trying to be logical here though, and I think there is some value in 3betting all-in as opposed to simply calling. Maybe not though. Would love to see some other responses.
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#8
05-31-2006, 07:17 AM
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Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?
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I don't know. I'm a sucker for draws and if it were me, I'd be getting my chips in here 150% of the time. I'm trying to be logical here though. [/ QUOTE ] We're not in a comfortable spot (10bb), there's enough money in the pot, and it's a big enough draw where I'm fine getting called or calling.
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#9
05-31-2006, 07:19 AM
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Re: Big draw late in tourney...whats your line?
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[ QUOTE ] I think he's dying to C/R us here, so give him the chance. Weak lead 6-7k, not too much or else he'll be able to shove. Then 3-bet all-in. [/ QUOTE ] You're not getting better hands to fold that c/r us. I bet 3/4pot on the flop and intend to get the rest in. I don't hate shoving, but based on reads (in this case none, but in general) bet in whatever manner gives us most FE. [/ QUOTE ] Well, after our weak lead, suddenly Villain may decide to C/R hands he was simply going to C/C before. Okay, thought popped into my head. What if Villain has KK here? Any chance of that after he checked the flop? I think KK would most definitely reraise a weak lead here, and then obv fold to a push. Whatever, my mind is fried. I need to go to sleep. Bye.
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