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Old 11-29-2007, 03:30 PM
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As played I think its an easy fold. He will check anything you beat.
As for the advice to bet/3bet allin on turn. I dont see why this is good. [ QUOTE ]
yeah. he's probably not betting worse on the turn so c/r is no good. just get it in yourself with your 1,000,000 outs if you are actually behind.

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You dont have that many outs, probably 8 or 9, with one card to come and you are a bit deeper than a buyin. I think a Bet/fold is okay too, I dont think a bluff raise is likely. But so far I am the only one who doesnt like bet/3bet allin on turn.

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You do notice he has the Ad right?

So any diamond, any paired board. That's more than 8 or 9 outs.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

I did not notice that. So basically I would have to re-think the whole scenario. and my post is probably now useless. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

the flop looks a little weak i think you can get away with at least $36 there. on the turn i would fire again, at least 3/4 of the pot.

i don't see a reason to get tricky here. this guy is splashing around a lot and is very aggressive for his vpip stats, play your hand strong and let him do something stupid. by checking the turn the hand gets awkward. maybe he floated the flop and now is bluffing, but if you c/r he'll give up. if you just fire the turn tho, maybe he'll shove trying to rep something and you can get his whole stack.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

villian insta bets 264 on river after my check...
???
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

That diamond does change a lot, and I now I like the bet/3bet on turn. I also feel very relieved because at first I thought, I was either playing really weak or everyone was crazy for saying bet/3bet.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

Fold River. What does he call you with on the Flop that you beat at this point? He probably doesn;t have an ace because you got 2 of them and the board has 1 of them. I think he would have raised T9 on the flop.

The only thing you could possibly beat that he would call the flop bet with is J8.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:12 PM
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You dont have that many outs, probably 8 or 9, with one card to come and you are a bit deeper than a buyin. I think a Bet/fold is okay too, I dont think a bluff raise is likely. But so far I am the only one who doesnt like bet/3bet allin on turn.

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Top set + Nut flush draw is not that many outs?
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:15 PM
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LOLOLOLOLOLL at b/f the turn ahahahhahahah
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:16 PM
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bet turn for whatever amount you think will induce and then scream LOL GOT YA and shove
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

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villian insta bets 264 on river after my check...
???

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he could be turning a lot of hands into a bluff on the river b/c of your line. also the insta bet in this situation with this villain looks bluffy to me. maybe he rivered two pair and hes like 'zomg he check i has two pair what do i do bet for value or yeah i rep straight idk lolololol :mash bet big button:.'

so id call, but i don't like the turn check/call line. Although by taking this line you could've just let him value town himself. So it may have worked out as a dumb/scared type of line that he was trying to take advantage of. basically inducing bluffs. i guess if im advocating a call i should be happy about it but its still kind of a bleh spot he basically has to be bluffing here, but this guy looks like that type so without getting into the exact math my instinct says a call is +ev here.
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