Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 10-30-2007, 08:45 PM
jfish jfish is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: what else is on my mind grapes?
Posts: 8,150
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

river is a bluff, but idk if i like it.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-30-2007, 08:45 PM
craig1120 craig1120 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 844
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

Turn is close. River I don't like bc I think his range after turn is heavily weighted toward JQ (even though it is a mistake).
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-30-2007, 08:46 PM
EverettKings EverettKings is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SF
Posts: 2,196
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

[ QUOTE ]
getting it in to a 3bet by btn? 3bet by sb?

[/ QUOTE ]

yes/yes

AA(3),TT/88(2),AT/A8(12) = 17 hands in the deck you're losing to.

I'm not going to bother counting the number of draws and AK type hands that might decide to 3bet you, but they're a lot more numerous than 17. You're not looking to get 3 bet, and while a button reraise would be worrisome, a decent player will know how strong the bet looks and make it with a range of hands.

Calling just sucks because there are SO many worse hands that will build a pot with you here. I'd expect to get called by a bunch of AQ type hands or draws and be able to build a fat pot on the turn if a blank falls and they aren't nits. Calling can only give you a chance to see a scare card fall and have trouble getting money in good.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-30-2007, 08:53 PM
EverettKings EverettKings is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SF
Posts: 2,196
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

[ QUOTE ]
i mean i think i might have completely messed up this hand. but here is the rest of it since the discussion of flop isnt very interesting.


Flop: ($90) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $55</font>, Hero calls $55, BTN calls $55

Turn: ($255) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $192</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $192

River: ($639) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $733 and is All-In</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL @ offsuit Q turn

River... I don't think I like. He almost definitely has to lead a Jack here, but trying to make him fold 2pair with your line seems unlikely. And if he doesn't have 2 pair, you're either winning or he has a jack (in either case betting is bad).
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-30-2007, 08:56 PM
Pasterbator Pasterbator is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: ruining lives.
Posts: 4,795
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

well, you did a good job of repping J9!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-30-2007, 11:11 PM
jk3a jk3a is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The 816, Holla
Posts: 3,531
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

I'm having difficulty putting SB on a range after his turn c/c?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-31-2007, 12:10 AM
wheelz wheelz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: what you know about that?
Posts: 3,235
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

i'm feelin like AT/A8 from sb
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-31-2007, 12:13 AM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: implied millionaire
Posts: 3,884
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

i think shoving the river sucks super bad like unconditionally terribl y
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-31-2007, 12:24 AM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Osi Ukin\'-yora
Posts: 9,388
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

god what a weird hand

i like the flop, easier to play != always most +EV

or maybe not since a billion cards kill your action
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-31-2007, 01:40 AM
berserk berserk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,676
Default Re: bottom 2 in awkward spot

[ QUOTE ]
i think shoving the river sucks super bad like unconditionally terribl y

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.