Khan's last hand

[Spurious]

i think pushing preflop > calling yang's raise
there is no way yang puts in his whole stack when an A flops (except if he got an ace), and there is probably a smaller chance that he'll put in that much money when a queen falls either.

[TheCount212]

but Yang's callig a PF push anyway

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but Yang's callig a PF push anyway

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yeah why would you want to get it in as a dominating favorite when hes calling with any ace and a bit of the better queens?

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i don't see why khan didn't just call Jerry's raise.
We all know jerry isn't folding anything...
We know he's hyper-aggro...
let's just see a flop and re-assess.

i think khan broke one of my major rules of final table MTT's
which is:

+) don't try to muscle the stack that can knock you out of the tourney.

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woohoo results orientedness!

if jerry isnt folding anything
if jerry is hyperaggro

isnt it very likely khan has the best hand and wants to get the most money in while it is?

it looks like a great double up opportunity

unlucky he ran into JJ but jerry is playing many weaker aces the same way

edit: calling pre sucks hard, especially against this type of player

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ah... yeah... results orientated... i don't like risking my
whole stack against the only player who can afford to
call my all-ins with anything and probably will...

that's hardly results orientated.

may i point out the style of the 2nd place finisher ( Tran? )
who took home $4 Million? and just carefully folded his
way to 2nd ?

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ok you keep folding AQs to a raise from a guy who was, on the broadcast, raising about 80% of hands preflop so you can jump up a payspot, and winning gets you tons more than the 8 mil first prize. no calling pre isnt an option since its terrible against this type of player

and youre pointing out tuan lam, who was quite card dead...

i really dont know what goes thru your peoples minds when you say these things. you wont get it all in with AQs because he WILL call with anything? wtf? ill take a 65-70% (with a chance of a 47%) chance of doubling up any day to give myself a better chance to win.

khan played the hand perfectly. it may have been slightly better to just shove preflop, but the 6m is basically an all in shove since he only has like 4m behind, whats the difference between shoving dark and not? it shows a bit more strength if anything, but not like yang is going to fold any hand though

[Bonified]

Plus, it seemed to me that four or five players were trying to fold their way into second. It's no surprise, and no endorsement of the strategy, that one of them managed it.

[todd1007]

by minraising, Khan was repping AA or KK, but he never had any intention of laying that hand down. since jerry's range of preflop raises was so large in khan's eyes, even if he misses on the flop, he thought jerry might have something as raggy as 9Ts or QJs. so, if jerry misses the flop, khan pushes and jerry lets the hand go. jerry did have a hand though, and khan lost his race. i dont mind the way that he played that hand.

[quirkasaurus]

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i don't see why khan didn't just call Jerry's raise.
We all know jerry isn't folding anything...
We know he's hyper-aggro...
let's just see a flop and re-assess.

i think khan broke one of my major rules of final table MTT's
which is:

+) don't try to muscle the stack that can knock you out of the tourney.

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woohoo results orientedness!

if jerry isnt folding anything
if jerry is hyperaggro

isnt it very likely khan has the best hand and wants to get the most money in while it is?

it looks like a great double up opportunity

unlucky he ran into JJ but jerry is playing many weaker aces the same way

edit: calling pre sucks hard, especially against this type of player

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ah... yeah... results orientated... i don't like risking my
whole stack against the only player who can afford to
call my all-ins with anything and probably will...

that's hardly results orientated.

may i point out the style of the 2nd place finisher ( Tran? )
who took home $4 Million? and just carefully folded his
way to 2nd ?

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ok you keep folding AQs to a raise from a guy who was, on the broadcast, raising about 80% of hands preflop so you can jump up a payspot, and winning gets you tons more than the 8 mil first prize. no calling pre isnt an option since its terrible against this type of player

and youre pointing out tuan lam, who was quite card dead...

i really dont know what goes thru your peoples minds when you say these things. you wont get it all in with AQs because he WILL call with anything? wtf? ill take a 65-70% (with a chance of a 47%) chance of doubling up any day to give myself a better chance to win.

khan played the hand perfectly. it may have been slightly better to just shove preflop, but the 6m is basically an all in shove since he only has like 4m behind, whats the difference between shoving dark and not? it shows a bit more strength if anything, but not like yang is going to fold any hand though

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All I said was, call the PF raise and reassess on the flop.
Khan had 9,000,000 in chips and didn't need to force any action.
He was still in great shape even if he lost the hand.

What's so horrible about that?

[TheCount212]

I'm saying I didn't like the all-in in the dark move. Not suggesting that Khan fold. Might have been better, in hindsight, to see the flop first and reassess. It doesn't really matter, because the flop was to Khan's liking, and he'd have pushed anyway after seeing the board.. and Yang would have called anyway.
Seemed to me that Khan was trying a sophisticated stop-and-go move which might have worked on another player... or at least one who didn't have (a) a giant stack and (b) JJ.
I wasn't a big fan of Khan's antics. But his play was very, very solid throughout.

[Halfpoint]

He didnt expect to get the 6 mil called, and when he did, he shoved because he thought that would be the best way to get Jerry to fold.