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Old 10-06-2007, 06:19 PM
xxeximusxx xxeximusxx is offline
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Default Another bad aces up fold Stud8?

I don't do good with aces, should i just lead river and fold to a raise?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($1/$2), Ante $0.20, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.20 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds

4th Street - (4.45 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.73 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (6.73 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

River - (8.73 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Total pot: (10.73 BB - $21.45)
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Another bad aces up fold Stud8?

I don't like leading on fifth. Seat 2 is showing a mighty strong board and if he bets I might even fold. Not sure. Sixth is really bad. He is showing a monster board to you. Definitely don't bet. I would probably c/f, but maybe someone can explain that it's really a c/c. I would probably not fold the river after getting that far and pumping in money on every street, but yeah you're getting yourself in the trouble at 5th and 6th.

In general you shouldn't be trying to make nice folds on the river in stud. The pots are so big that really the opponent's board has to beat you for you to fold for just one bet.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Another bad aces up fold Stud8?

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I don't like leading on fifth. Seat 2 is showing a mighty strong board and if he bets I might even fold. Not sure. Sixth is really bad. He is showing a monster board to you. Definitely don't bet. I would probably c/f, but maybe someone can explain that it's really a c/c. I would probably not fold the river after getting that far and pumping in money on every street, but yeah you're getting yourself in the trouble at 5th and 6th.

In general you shouldn't be trying to make nice folds on the river in stud. The pots are so big that really the opponent's board has to beat you for you to fold for just one bet.

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yeah, i should have noted that i fold to a raise on 6th, i just hate checking their and having him check behind giving him a chance to catch his card for free.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Another bad aces up fold Stud8?

Well if we assume that his two cards are any random two he's got you in bad shape
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: Another bad aces up fold Stud8?

Third and fourth are fine. Check and call fifth. The three-card straight flush is pretty scary. I realize that a lot of $1/2 players aren't very accomplished and there's a decent chance he doesn't have much of anything. There's some chance that he has a flush, though, and an excellent chance that he has one or more four-card draws. I'm not quite ready to give up yet, but there's no reason to put more money into this pot than you have to.

Definitely check sixth. There's a pretty good chance that you're drawing to four outs, and that might well be four outs to a chop. There's an excellent chance that he's free-rolling. Betting here is just hopeless.

You'd probably do well to eliminate betting and folding to a raise from your arsenal, at least in this game. The river certainly isn't the place for it. Check, call, and hate life.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Another bad aces up fold Stud8?

The way this hand played out I was definitly check call the river.

6th SUCKS. I would probably c/f here.
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Another bad aces up fold Stud8?

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In general you shouldn't be trying to make nice folds on the river in stud. The pots are so big that really the opponent's board has to beat you for you to fold for just one bet.

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And this is like four times as true in Stud/8. If you never folded the river for one bet when you could beat your opponent's board and he could possibly be going the other way, you wouldn't be too far wrong.
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