Roulette is stupid!

[zasterguava]

Im addicted to blackjack on party, luckilly Im a winner lifetime, BUT, my betting patterns and mentality shows that I am a problem gambler- so i feel your pain, just try and quit.

[PairTheBoard]

I love Roulette. If I was going to foolishly gamble away all my money without consideration for length of play I'd get out of it, I'd probably choose Roulette. I like to bet on individual numbers. I find it very exciting to watch the ball popping around close to my number, in and out and back into My slot. When your number hits you feel like a genius.

If you're going to foolishly play roulette anyway, you might as well try to learn how to do some Ball-Wheel tracking by eye. It's the same idea as the one that has successfully been employed with the aid of computer Ball-Wheel tracking with software designed to compute the physics involved. You can try to do it by eye, letting your brain be the computer. It's a fairly easy technique to learn.

Most Rims are slightly tilted or worn in such a way that the ball tends to slow most in a certain section of the Rim and drop off the Rim in that section most of the time. You can focus your eyes on that section and use the passing ball as a "strobe" with respect to the spinning Wheel. You will see a section of the Wheel Strobe backwards then forwards as the ball slows. If the Wheel is being spun at a fairly constant rate you can use that Backward-Forward strobing effect to predict how long till the ball drops and in what section of the wheel it is likely to drop. Adjusting for ball drag on the wheel once it starts bouncing around on it, you can predict which section of the wheel the ball is likely to settle in. You can make that prediction before the "No more Bets" is called, and place your bets on numbers of the predicted wheel section. All you have to do is predict the Section of the Wheel rather than specific numbers. If you can do that reliably you have a big edge betting on numbers in the correct Wheel Section.

There was a guy about 15-20 years ago selling the information I just gave you for something like $100. The trouble is, I've never heard of anybody actually making it work. I tried it, and although it felt like it was working, the statistics I kept didn't prove it out. I also understand guys from the MIT Blackjack team got ahold of a Roulette Wheel and practiced on it, but also could not make it work. It's fun to try though. And it's funny if you start getting lucky and hit a few numbers. They can see what you're trying to do and they will give you heat.

However it sounds to me like you are unable to control and enjoy your -EV recreational gambling. The only solution for this problem is to Say No to all -EV bets. You must convince yourself that you cannot afford to make even One knowingly -EV bet. It's not the 24 hour session of -EV gambling that is killing you. It's the First -EV bet. You have an addiction problem with -EV gambling.

I don't think this necessarily means you have to give up Poker if you are a winning player. Winning Poker is Not -EV gambling. Winning Poker is more like Work. Your addiction problem is with -EV gambling. The problem for you is made worse by the fact that your "Work" happens to be surrounded by the temptations of your Addiction. But there are recovering alcoholics who still mangage to work as bartenders. It can be done. If you have legitimate business in a scene that includes the temptations of your addiction you can conduct your business there. Poker is your business. Besides, whether a recovering alchoholic works as a bartender or a shoe salesman, the liquor store is always right down the street anyway.

You might try GA but you will probably hear from a lot of people who don't understand Winning Poker who say you must give it up. And if worse comes to worst you might have to. It's a deadly serious matter that can potentially destroy you. But you might also find other Winning Poker players there who can understand where you are coming from. You could even start your own GA group for Poker Players addicted to -EV Gambling.

Personally, I find it Painful to make even one knowingly -EV bet. I find no recreational pleasure in it. It's like self flagellation in public.

PairTheBoard

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[blutarski]

I played roulette once. I put down some chips on a number. It didn't hit. I thought "Jesus, how in the world am I supposed to do anything but make a guess?"

I walked away.

[govman6767]

Why play roulette when there is a better Red-Black game with a MUCH lower Vig.. Baccarat Player, Bank is the same as red, black. You pick one and have no decisions to make in the process.

Roullete is retarded baccarat is better

[Al Mirpuri]

I am a lifetime winner at roulette. I have only ever placed two $10 bets and won both times...

Roulette is not stupid. It is a game in which the house has a mathematical edge. In such games, as Sklansky has written, in order to overcome the edge which grinds you down over time you should make one bet. Bet whatever you are going to bet over a session in one bet. Better still do not play roulette. Roulette is very seductive as it gives rise to system play and humans are also fascinated by numbers.

Roulette story: I am playing roulette online with PLAY MONEY, and am given 1000 units. I turn these into 4400 then I start to play the number seventeen. I get to my last 400 and forget to place my bet but spin the wheel, not to worry I tell myself what is the likelihood of seventeen coming up? Seventeen comes up. I am so astonished I spin the wheel again without placing a bet but I am not worried as I tell myself what is the likelihood of a seventeen coming up a second time? Seventeen comes up.

[Dignam]

Google Caro's Roulette system. Some people swear by it.

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Caro's Roulette System #1
(This has generated hundreds of responses and requests for copies. People have been unable to find the message, as originally posted to rec.gambling.poker in 1997. The archive service Dejanews.com does not appear to offer Mike's original post. So, here it is repeated. It is Mike's request that we no longer publicly discuss the system, except to tell people where the curious can find it. Thanks.) By Mike Caro, "America's Mad Genius"

Startling disclosure by respected gambling authority has casino execs scratching heads

The following message was posted to the newsgroup rec.gambling.poker in 1997. Mike Caro was responding to a request for a good roulette system. Caro, who has for years maintained that you cannot overcome the odds against you at craps or roulette, steadfastly believes in this system. He calls it Caro's Roulette System #1. Surprisingly, some of the top mathematicians in the world have endorsed it.

If you click here, Mike Caro will explain why his system works, but we highly recommend that you study his system below first. Technical explanations can be quite boring. Sometimes it's better just to trust an expert.

Below is the message, as it was originally posted. It is aimed at a standard American roulette wheel, which has both zero and double zero. Similar theory could be applied to European roulette wheels with only a single zero, though.

BEGIN ORIGINAL POST

I'm going to give you a secret roulette system that really works. It will cut the house advantage to literally nothing, if you believe in it enough to never get frustrated and switch tactics. What I'm going to say may seem strange, but here goes.

First, never bet simply red or black. Also don't bet odd or even. These are equally poor, consistently losing wagers.

Second, don't be suckered into betting zero or double zero, despite what some experts may suggest. This may seem like you're betting with the house, but for technical reasons you are actually betting against the house -- and you are taking the worst of it.

So, in order to negate the house advantage, you MUST stick to straight non-green number bets. All odd red numbers turn out to be bad choices, based on over two trillion computer trials. Don't bet them.

All even black numbers fair poorly, and cannot be bet, for much the same reason, which I won't explain here.

Let's get straight to the money-saving advice. Any bet you decide to make MUST cover only even-red or odd-black numbers. There are no exceptions.

Finally, you need to be very disciplined in excluding the number 30 and the group of consecutive numbers that begins with 11 and continues clockwise through and including 14.

This system may seem mystical, but I take gambling quite seriously, and this works for me.

END ORIGINAL POST

Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro

[Al Mirpuri]

Dignam a touch of Mike Caro is good for the soul!!!!!!!!!!!

[AlienBoy]

Well, according to these images, this system would leave 32 as a bettable number.






In the above noted system, I think the number 30 should read "32"..

AB