violation of Gap Theory?

Gen Sterling · #1 11-09-2007, 02:30 PM

First hand on PS, 10FPP $500 Cash Freeroll. I can't get over these idiots in the FRs, but I do want to use my FPPs wisely. Afterall, I did earn them. I am a really tight ass player, but TT looks good to me here. Should I have mucked or did I just get donked?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t20, MP2 raises to t1500, 2 folds, Hero calls t1490 (All-In), 1 fold, MP1 folds.

Flop: (t3040) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t3040) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3040) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t3040


Hero has Th Td (one pair, tens).
MP2 has 4h Jh (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: MP2 wins t3040.

Rek · #2 11-09-2007, 02:47 PM

Early in these type of games you get a lot of this play. People going all in and trying to build a stack early or go out.

To a certain degree I understand why they do it. Costs nothing to enter (well almost) and they dont want to spend hours grinding for nothing.

Very difficult to play properly early. In your scenario I would be thinking he probably doesn't have a great hand so I think your call is ok. But I would have put him on a couple of overcards so I am thinking coinflip. But in this type of game I am happy with an early coinflip.

Gen Sterling · #3 11-09-2007, 02:58 PM

geeze, I hate having to call all-in w/ TT because I know it can be dominated, but knowing the types of players in these events makes it difficult to fold. Maybe I should have folded, as the "it takes a bigger hand to call a raise than it does to raise" theory goes.

Yeah, you're right, Rek, I should have put him on at least one overcard. I didn't consider what he may have. How could I, though? It was the first hand with no read.

Rek · #4 11-09-2007, 03:08 PM

Yeah "normal" games I'm laying that down. But in this type of game I call but I know 50% of the time I'm out.

Poker Clif · #5 11-09-2007, 04:17 PM

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First hand on PS, 10FPP $500 Cash Freeroll. I can't get over these idiots in the FRs, but I do want to use my FPPs wisely. After all, I did earn them. I am a really tight ass player, but TT looks good to me here. Should I have mucked or did I just get donked?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t20, MP2 raises to t1500, 2 folds, Hero calls t1490 (All-In), 1 fold, MP1 folds.

Flop: (t3040) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t3040) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3040) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t3040


Hero has Th Td (one pair, tens).
MP2 has 4h Jh (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: MP2 wins t3040. 

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I completely understand where you're coming from. I earned my 500FPP, which got me my $50 deposit bonus, and a PokerStars T-shirt, playing $1 SNG. I played a ton of them, finally having to play a few $5, and multitable a few $1s, to clear my bonus.

I was a breakeven player while I earned my shirt, got up to about another 170 FPP, then lost most of my small bankroll. I had to wait for the long E-passporte process to get another $20 in my account, so I was spending my precious FPPs, and it hurt to be farther away from another shirt!

Finally, I decided that when everyone is going crazy in a tournament, I'll just stay out of the way for a while.

Example: I've moved up to $5 SNG now, but it's not a whole lot different. Yesterday was an 18-player SNG, starting blinds 10/20, betting and raising all over the place, and the first two pots were around $500.

I decided to let the idiots beat on each other for a while, and I played Spider solataire.

After things called down a little, and a few players were knocked out, I got back in, and cashed 3rd of 18th.

You can take that approach, or else try for one coin flip, get your big stack, and then try to work your way into the cash playing good poker, and fewer risks.

With a small bankroll, or if you care that much about your FPPs, discretion may be the better part of valor.