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Old 11-28-2007, 12:03 PM
KIZDuck KIZDuck is offline
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Default K4 - line check

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($94)
SB ($135.70)
BB ($69.95)
UTG ($110.20)
MP ($83.95)
CO ($110.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($4.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $109.9</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $56.50

How do you play this preflop &amp; flop?
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:35 PM
ANY2CARDZ ANY2CARDZ is offline
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Wow, im never floding that flop. Your almost only behind to 33, but there are many more hands that you are ahead of. Flush draw, Straight draw, ak, k-q, k-3 ect..
I Insta call his raise all day long.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:37 PM
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I'd probably raise or fold this PF.

And I'm not folding this flop either.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:38 PM
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I'm probably folding preflop but calling is ok I guess..
this is a call on the flop.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: K4 - line check

I'm calling flop. Preflop is not too bad i think.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:47 PM
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Why exactly are you folding? I presume you put him on 33, but as said before there many more hands in his range abd u still have 17% equity vs 33 and you're already gettin ~1.8:1
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:56 PM
Worm75 Worm75 is offline
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Default Re: K4 - line check

Jamougha made a nice post in a hand similar to this a while back. Basically in this spot he is trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible here, unless his hand improved, since so much of CO's range can include 33/44.

While a lot is going to depend on what kind of player CO is, ie he's a horrible 50/8/2 drooler who gets tricky by limping AK and then goes broke with it, but a pretty large part of your standard villains range is either 33/44 after this action.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:58 PM
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I would raise more on the flop and this is the easiest call ever. Laugh when he turns over AA cry when the river is a 3.

edit: this is pokerstars, laugh and cry simultaneously as the river is a 3 and he turns over AA due to their rigged slowrolling software.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:02 PM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
Jamougha made a nice post in a hand similar to this a while back. Basically in this spot he is trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible here, unless his hand improved, since so much of CO's range can include 33/44.


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How can we possibly flat call this flop against someone who is clearly a tard. Raise and get it in is the only option here and I have no idea why we would ever want to get to showdown cheap. Villain minraised this flop 3 way, he is an idiot.

edit: and 44 is just so unlikely given we have a four, we are basically behind one hand and have a bajillion other hands crushed.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: K4 - line check

CO is 17/9/1.5 over 178 hands.

I folded because villian has a Flop AF of 1.75.
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