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Old 11-08-2007, 02:03 AM
smokingrobot smokingrobot is offline
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Default NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

My table image is pretty TAG. I've been taking down pots w/o a showdown for quite some time as I had previously been showing down with the winning hand. Villain is disgustingly loose and passive: 64/7.04/.4.

He and I have only played in one other hand which I played a pocket pair rather passively against him.

If it helps I'm at: 18/11/1.8

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $108.30
BB: $51.40
UTG: $39.90
CO: $48.65
Hero (BTN): $92.95

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3

Turn: ($10.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6

River: ($22.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $40.40 and is All-In</font>

I'm confused about the turn bet and then I guess ultimately the river, but I'd appreciate any comments on the preflop raise and the flop bet.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:06 AM
Khaos4k Khaos4k is offline
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Default Re: NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

Villain is passive. Villain is betting. We have ace high. I am getting the [censored] out of here.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

I'm probably folding to the turn donk, unless he smart enough to think that this is probably the driest board possible and was gonna stop and go you.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

Is there such a thing as a value call/value reraise? Any other time, had there not been the sudden action on the part of the opponent, I'd be VB'ing the [censored] outta this.

In other words, is there ever a situation where we make value calls against a ridiculously loose passive player?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

maybe i should rephrase this: how often against an opponent like this should we be calling down against a bluff?

If we should always be VB'ing when we lead the action, why shouldnt we be doing the same thing in these situations?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

We don't call because generally, passive villains don't bluff.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

WTF?

Probably fold to turn donk. His AF is .7. You definitely can't raise, and a call is pretty gross.

Is there seriously a question on the river? You have Ahigh and a .7AF villain just overshoved on a flushed and 4-straighted board. This isn't a hero call, this is a retard call.

If you are asking about when to make hero calls... well, thats a whole nother issue. But it definitely, definitely, definitely is not here.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

Against someone playing nearly 65% of cards dealt his range is really, really wide. The only thing you're beating is complete air here and I really doubt he has that often enough that this is profitable. Why would you want to risk 80BBs in such a margial situation to find out?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

lemme guess.. you folded and he showed you air... amirite?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Blank hits turn, opponent wakes up and confuses the hero

we have Ace High...villian is all in for 80BB into 40BB pot...i don't really need any more info I'm folding.
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