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Old 11-05-2007, 10:15 AM
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I think OP makes a fair point, despite all the flaming.

TOS are there for EVERYONE. If you are going to bend them to suit then how can you persecute another person for doing the same. Regardless of how important someone is rules are there for everyone. FT have set a bad example by allowing the Pro's to MA IMO and are then shutting accounts and seizing funds of other players who do this. Hypocritical as far as I am concerned.

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That's exactly it...not to mention, he is NOT sponsored by FT and he does not make them very much money at all. Yes, he plays high stakes and so there is more high stakes action and more railbirds watching, but he rakes far less than a usual grinder. But why do I respond to that when it has nothing to do with the issue. It is a double standard that should only be allowed if they weren't throwing the iron fist at some people for it.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:39 AM
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TOS are there for EVERYONE. If you are going to bend them to suit then how can you persecute another person for doing the same. Regardless of how important someone is rules are there for everyone.

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I'm pretty sure Antonius shot them an email and said that he'd like to change his name. Since his business is very important to FT they oblige him. He hasn't broken any rules because they have made an exception for him.

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seizing funds of other players who do this

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They have not seized the funds of ANYONE just for using multiple accounts(except possibly in cases of bonus abuse).

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Hypocritical as far as I am concerned.

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Who cares? It's just like high rollers getting special treatment in casinos.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:42 AM
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It is a double standard that should only be allowed if they weren't throwing the iron fist at some people for it.

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They aren't being overly harsh with others though. They just make people go back to their first account.

As I said in the post above, treating high rollers differently is common in the gambling world. The big name FTP players draw people to the site, Grinder X doesn't. So when the big name player wants something a little out of the ordinary they do what they can to accommodate him.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:45 AM
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Black you are wrong on so many levels I will only address one or two. First of all, PA's business is NOT that important to FT. A HUGE shark at high stakes just pulls big $$$ amounts off the site and the side affect of one more person playing nosebleeds is not that big, especially when he is sponsored by other sites.

second, why would they agree if he 'shipped' them an email when they are then going to obviously get attacked for it when they have said REPEATEDLY that they don't flex their TOS for anyone.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:47 AM
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It is a double standard that should only be allowed if they weren't throwing the iron fist at some people for it.

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They aren't being overly harsh with others though. They just make people go back to their first account.

As I said in the post above, treating high rollers differently is common in the gambling world. The big name FTP players draw people to the site, Grinder X doesn't. So when the big name player wants something a little out of the ordinary they do what they can to accommodate him.

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And you casually act like this is no big deal when the whole point is basically to scam people. Someone changes his account name so that he can get action from those he wouldn't normally as well as have an added edge to those he knows well who won't know his game at first. It's blatant scamming and he is the last person who should need that.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:05 AM
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First of all, PA's business is NOT that important to FT. A HUGE shark at high stakes just pulls big $$$ amounts off the site and the side affect of one more person playing nosebleeds is not that big, especially when he is sponsored by other sites.


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Bzzzzzt wrong answer. Full Tilt doesn't make much money off PA directly, or even from the high stakes games. People do download the software just to watch him play, however. Those people are in turn more likely to play on FT themselves.

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second, why would they agree if he 'shipped' them an email when they are then going to obviously get attacked for it when they have said REPEATEDLY that they don't flex their TOS for anyone.

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Because the value of his continued play there exceeds the negative value of the backlash from wackos like you.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:07 AM
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And you casually act like this is no big deal when the whole point is basically to scam people. Someone changes his account name so that he can get action from those he wouldn't normally as well as have an added edge to those he knows well who won't know his game at first. It's blatant scamming and he is the last person who should need that.

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Playing anonymously is not scamming. It does provide an edge though.

There are reasons for PA and others to have secondary accounts aside from trying to get an edge on opponents. I'm sure some of the time PA just wants to get on and play without being hassled by railtards and such.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:30 AM
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First of all, PA's business is NOT that important to FT. A HUGE shark at high stakes just pulls big $$$ amounts off the site and the side affect of one more person playing nosebleeds is not that big, especially when he is sponsored by other sites.


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Bzzzzzt wrong answer. Full Tilt doesn't make much money off PA directly, or even from the high stakes games. People do download the software just to watch him play, however. Those people are in turn more likely to play on FT themselves.

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second, why would they agree if he 'shipped' them an email when they are then going to obviously get attacked for it when they have said REPEATEDLY that they don't flex their TOS for anyone.

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Because the value of his continued play there exceeds the negative value of the backlash from wackos like you.

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This is too funny. It's pathetic how easily agreeable you are to the bottom line. Hmmmmm, this sounds awfully familiar...where were you in defending Absolute for scamming their customers if they felt it in their best interest financially had they never so stupidly been caught? Are you saying a site should do whatever it wants to its customers simply for its bottom line? LOL
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:43 PM
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Ok, has FT actually said they closed sillysal's account and seized her funds for botting? As far as i am aware, it looks as though Sal has been multi-accounting, which is what CrazyMike implied. So if FT have closed her account and seized her funds due to multi-accounting there is a major problem with them allowing the pro's to do exactly this.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:40 PM
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jeff329, it's FTP's site and FTP's decision. It doesn't matter how many times you respond saying "it isn't fair!" They don't care, and we don't either. Stop crying.
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