Chasing a draw early on - Page 2

Bakes · #11 10-22-2007, 03:07 PM

control the pot size preflop by openraising to like 250...you want the pot small if your better than your opponents postflop.

NHFunkii · #12 10-22-2007, 08:28 PM

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DJ Pattiecake · #13 10-22-2007, 08:36 PM

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control the pot size preflop by openraising to like 250...you want the pot small if your better than your opponents postflop.

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FOLD>400>250....Would you make the same raise with other hands bakes?

djk123 · #14 10-22-2007, 10:13 PM

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only if you're terrible. 400 is too big though. 300 is fine.

DJ Pattiecake · #15 10-22-2007, 10:40 PM

a lot of the time in live tournaments, if the standard raise is 400 and you start making it 300, players will start call your bets more often preflop (at least)
I'm not sure how this pertains to this particular situation but im just putting it out there.

DJA · #16 10-23-2007, 03:23 PM

I typically lay this down preflop, but by no means a bad play, for 5% of your stack.

preflop if I raise I would have raised to 2.5X or 3X the BB (always in first few levels... unless I have a monster and I have a fish to play with). This may reduce the size of your bet on the flop, and his raise on the flop... which is good for drawing hands. On the flop, I like the lead out to represent the A. In hind site, sure would have been nice to check, call, but I would have represented the A as well. This is your 1 chance this hand to fold, and I like the call.

On the turn, call is automatic, and fold if you don't hit the river. Guy is tight so if you hit bet like 1900. Gives him a couple of chips to think he can call and make a come back. Anymore and you probably lose him.

Mench · #17 10-23-2007, 03:33 PM

300 pre > folding

wandigo · #18 10-23-2007, 03:44 PM

When you're as deepstacked as you are, I wouldn't even bother raising Kc8c pf. As played, flop looks fine, check/fold the turn.

Pudge714 · #19 10-23-2007, 05:20 PM

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only if you're terrible. 400 is too big though. 300 is fine.

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nutsinho · #20 10-23-2007, 05:42 PM

Preflop: 250 or 275 is way better than 400. 400 is god-awful.
Flop: I'm probably check/raising that [censored]. He rarely has AK so unless he has a set or is a fish he's folding. Once you bet and get raised, I like the call versus shoving without a read.
Turn: As played, turbo-muck unless he's bad enough to call a shove on a club riv despite your transparent line.