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Old 10-05-2007, 03:25 PM
WarDekar WarDekar is offline
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Anyway, I raised to 1000, button called. Flop was A73. I checked, button bet 2000, I checkraised allin, btton called and turned over ATo, which was good. I felt like a donk buting out with A2o like that.

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Open-shove and he folds, live players are so nitty he'd probably fold AK here because it's a "drawing hand"
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:00 PM
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push bot chart says push A2o with M of 9.4 or less at a tight table, otherwise 7.3 or less.
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:07 PM
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push bot chart says push A2o with M of 9.4 or less at a tight table, otherwise 7.3 or less.

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But that doesn't necessarily make the push the best play with 14xBB.
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:31 PM
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push bot chart says push A2o with M of 9.4 or less at a tight table, otherwise 7.3 or less.

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But that doesn't necessarily make the push the best play with 14xBB.

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I can't show you the math behind it but I disagree Betgo. I think there is a decent chance that guy folds A,10 in that spot live. I shoved some marginal hands in live tourneys last week and had people fold 8,8 face up etc.
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:37 PM
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push bot chart says push A2o with M of 9.4 or less at a tight table, otherwise 7.3 or less.

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But that doesn't necessarily make the push the best play with 14xBB.

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I can't show you the math behind it but I disagree Betgo. I think there is a decent chance that guy folds A,10 in that spot live. I shoved some marginal hands in live tourneys last week and had people fold 8,8 face up etc.

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Completely agree, I had someone fold TT face-up to me once and this was AFTER I had been caught shoving things like 57s , Ax multiple times
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:04 PM
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yea i think most of the time allin is the best play
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:20 PM
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easy shove people fold AQ faceup and less here incorrectly and even higher live.


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massive forarm

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This is a key, the massive forearm shove is always strong.
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:40 PM
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long time no hear woodguy, way to come in with spot on advice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:58 PM
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What is the definition of unexploitable you guys are using in this thread? +EV even if you turn your cards face up?
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:38 PM
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long time no hear woodguy, way to come in with spot on advice

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Yo brother!

Lurking mostly when on, which isn't as frequent as before.......I'm still sharing the odd bad advice and mistyped response like in Ansky's thread. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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