Hand from Borgata WPT

[raptor517]

ok i didnt read any of the responses, but i snap fold. it just seems glaringly obvious hes trying to milk some kinda [censored], and if hes not, well, nice hand sir u outplayed me.

[ZeeJustin]

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Justin,
A few people (mastr and chewy, and probably more) already said that explicitly. Every other competent player left it out of their posts because it's really obvious that AA/KK/TT are a big part of his range.

The reason people didn't all jump on fold is because

1) AK is def in his range.
2) We have a set and folding sets sucks.
3) Everyone thought there was something interesting that they were missing.

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Again you are missing the picture. It's not about what is in his range. It's about what isn't.

[Ignacio Munoz]

OP has really killed this thread.

[woodguy]

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It's not about what is in his range. It's about what isn't.


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[NLSoldier]

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1) AK is a lot more vulnerable than AA. He is more likely to bet it on the flop.

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How is AK a lot more vulnerable than AA? because pocket pairs have a whopping 2 less outs?

"3) His preflop raise looked really strong."

sort of agree with this but many ppl would consider AK REALLY strong against a limp and sb complete.

"5) On this turn, he's a lot more likely to be behind with AK than AA."

Are you really just calling in the sb often enough with 88 and TT for AK to be that much diff than AA? the only realy difference I see is that AA has more suckout value vs a str8.

[tpir]

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so whats the key?

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Wtf. I just explained it.

It's obvious that the angle shot makes sense.

The key is that the intention to call does not make sense with his line so far in the hand.

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wtf. this seems like a pretty simple hand range/standard betting pattern exercise. that no one said explicitly this is of almost no consequence. are you getting ready to take over p.gordon's spot on tv for sik reedz?

[The B]

what exactly did Sass and Thor say that was so f'ing genius?

[ZeeJustin]

Sure, lots of people are saying it's simple now. I still see a lot of people debating, with many saying it's obviously a call (ActionJeff included). And very few people were able to come to the conclusion that the call doesn't make sense given the flop check. In fact, many people took that as reason to continue with the hand.

I don't get why people always try to make everything seem so simple even after many disagreements among well respected posters.

[Teph]

i say
look inside for a hand
where something happens, unplanned!
a fake, a reversal of tell?
I ask you to solve this spell.
To flop a set and wait to bet
Or a strange line while way behind?
To solve the mystery of armanian bettor
You must look close and be very clever
For I have told you all that I will
Prove to hsnl that we mtt'ers DO have skill!
The clock is ticking I have begun to count,
just please no mentioning of tico or multiaccount

Zeejustin - ah ah!

[Teph]

ps. zj - you are like the dennis nedry of 2p2.