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Old 09-10-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t5000/t10000
(Ante: t1000)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t142810
BALTOSTAR: t97326
MP1: t105712
MP2: t417988
MP3: t172719
CO: t222975
Button: t244547
SB: t228132
BB: t312952

Pre-flop: (9 players) BALTOSTAR is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">BALTOSTAR
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

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Old 09-10-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

Why fold ?

If I go through the blinds I'll be at 80K. Barely an M of 3.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

And consider that at this point nearly every round was getting raised up before action got to me.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

This is actually close with the fairly big ante, but I would fold.

No problem having 8xBB after going through blinds. With that stack next round, you can push looser, such as with this hand and position.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

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This is actually close with the fairly big ante, but I would fold.

No problem having 8xBB after going through blinds. With that stack next round, you can push looser, such as with this hand and position.

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I don't know.

At about 1/4 the big stack, currently my stack is still scary. After the blinds I'm down to 1/5, and a big stack player not adverse to variance will call me with a wide range.

I look at 1/4 big stack as the pivot point where one's stack goes from still scary to not so scary.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

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This is actually close with the fairly big ante, but I would fold.

No problem having 8xBB after going through blinds. With that stack next round, you can push looser, such as with this hand and position.

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I don't know.

At about 1/4 the big stack, currently my stack is still scary. After the blinds I'm down to 1/5, and a big stack player not adverse to variance will call me with a wide range.

I look at 1/4 big stack as the pivot point where one's stack goes from still scary to not so scary.

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All you have to do is stay in the game until everyone else busts and you take 2nd place money. Being small in relation to other stacks should not be scary.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

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All you have to do is stay in the game until everyone else busts and you take 2nd place money. Being small in relation to other stacks should not be scary.

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No one makes the final table thinking like this.

At the time of this hand there were about 6 tables remaining and I was on a rapidly accelerating trend-line where currently 1/4 of my stack is blinded off each round, soon to be 1/3 of my stack.

A check/fold strategy waiting for a premium hand is the worst strategy possible. At &lt;10xBB I'm clearly in pushbot territory and what I have going for me more than anything else is my still-significant fold-equity.

I'm not sure K9o on UTG+1 was correct, but I believe it was very close. In late-stage tourney play I think FTA is much more important than position. UTG ceded FTA to me.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

You could listen to betgo. He knows what he's talkin about. Or, you could make a thread and not listen to any of the advice. And, you could keep making -EV shoves. Your choice.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: $750K M=4 UTG+1 FTA K9o

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All you have to do is stay in the game until everyone else busts and you take 2nd place money. Being small in relation to other stacks should not be scary.

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No one makes the final table thinking like this.

At the time of this hand there were about 6 tables remaining and I was on a rapidly accelerating trend-line where currently 1/4 of my stack is blinded off each round, soon to be 1/3 of my stack.

A check/fold strategy waiting for a premium hand is the worst strategy possible. At &lt;10xBB I'm clearly in pushbot territory and what I have going for me more than anything else is my still-significant fold-equity.

I'm not sure K9o on UTG+1 was correct, but I believe it was very close. In late-stage tourney play I think FTA is much more important than position. UTG ceded FTA to me.

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No need to take bad gambles bavause you are short stacked. Push next round after you are blinded down.
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