50nl: Flopped top two, scary turn spot...

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If a scare card hits on the turn after leading the flop, why would you even bother betting?


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I'm not saying I'm thrilled about betting when a scare card hits but I like it a lot better than checking because

a) you figure out where you're at, I don't think anyone is bluff raising you after you lead the flop and turn into a preflop riaser and

b) there are multiple draws out there so any one draw hitting doesn't mean that you're beat. I'm checking if the two worst cards in the deck hit: the J or K of clubs and that's it.

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If you're playing hands like this against me, I guarentee you I'm going to make it into a situation where you're going to be losing a lot of money in the long run.

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Maybe you'll win some from me in the long run by playing your flush draw on this flop but so what? I'm pushing you off it the 4/5 times that you don't hit on the turn, I'm giving you one 3/4 psb when you do hit, and the 4/5 of the time you don't hit I'm building a big pot against CO, who very likely has a worse hand.

[Peter Harris]

obv flop c/r

b/f turn as played.

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obv flop c/r

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If c/ring this flop is "obv" then explain your reasoning please.

[Peter Harris]

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obv flop c/r

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If c/ring this flop is "obv" then explain your reasoning please.

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Flat call preflop, villain is likely to c-bet. You want the maximum chance of squeezing out the player in the middle or committing them, betting out is unlikely to thin the field here, and when you c/r the flop you are more likely to see villain's reaction than when they merely peel.

I think it's an obvious and correct spot to c/r since betting out, even pot, doesn't help when it turns less than wonderful.

[ssdex]

im checking turn and c/r flop, I think a lead is meh here b/c its the kind of flop your going to get a cbet on most of the time and ur hand is underrepped since you didnt 3bet in the BB, this is a pretty good 3bet spot fwiw.
-dex

[Check_The_Nuts]

lol dudes AF is 1 I think check/raise turn is insaneeeeee. I would bet fold or check/call a medium sized bet but probably not a big one. I probably lean more towards betting just cuz i only wanna put in one more bet versus this guy and if I bet I get to size it (keep in mind I'm likely much much more aggro than you which makes him call with a wider range).

[Peter Harris]

sample size isn't given. AF = 1 means he bets as much as calls, and with a 40 VPIP that means he's hardly passive.

PA HUD AFs are a little more useful. But again they are sample dependent.

[Check_The_Nuts]

Peter I'm not worried about the fish, MP here has us beat a lot. I dunno if a bet commits us. I didn't realize 3 ppl called the flop. I may just check this turn now that its 3 way. Maybe bet something real small like half pot, fold to raise from MP, call raise from fish.

[ReNoRyan]

Ok here is the way the turn played out...I'm sure this is a call for pot odd reasons but what do I beat here??? AK, Aj, flush draw....??

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $12.30
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $52.05
MP: $15.50
CO: $26.50
BTN: $68.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, MP calls $4.00, CO calls $4.00

Turn: ($18.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $20.50</font>

Pot Size: $48.75

[Check_The_Nuts]

uh u have two pair and r getting like 5 to 1 super easy call.