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Old 06-07-2007, 12:46 AM
ReNoRyan ReNoRyan is offline
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Default $16: ITM hand against solid 2+2 reg

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Button (t4970)
SB (t4355)
Hero (t4175)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with x x
<font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t4330 (All-in)</font>, Hero ??

Villian is a good 2+2 reg, he has pushed the last 4 hands from the small blind.
What range of hands are you calling with here, and what range do you put willian on?
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: $16: ITM hand against solid 2+2 reg

Probably something like 88+(77?),KJ+,A9+. you still have enough chips to play but could probably call wider profitably.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: $16: ITM hand against solid 2+2 reg

Top 26%
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: $16: ITM hand against solid 2+2 reg

What calling range do you think the villain puts YOU on? How have you been portraying yourself so far? What hands have you showed down? Given that he's 2+2, he's probably pushing anything that gives a +ev given your expected calling range.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: $16: ITM hand against solid 2+2 reg

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Probably something like 88+(77?),KJ+,A9+. you still have enough chips to play but could probably call wider profitably.

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88 is much much much stronger than A9 or KJ.


id need a name or something to know exactly. against some guys im calling like shillx is at 26% but vs most in the lower 20s
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:53 AM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: $16: ITM hand against solid 2+2 reg

I guess its stronger, but would you not call with A2 way before 22 even though 22&gt;A2? Less than 88 you are almost certainly flipping while decent Ax hands or face card hands are generally ahead.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: $16: ITM hand against solid 2+2 reg

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I guess its stronger, but would you not call with A2 way before 22 even though 22&gt;A2? Less than 88 you are almost certainly flipping while decent Ax hands or face card hands are generally ahead.

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well according to KS ranges 88 is really strong compared to those other hands. KS ranges arent perfect for calling i dont think but they arent too far off. for example there are countless bubble situations where you can call with TT+ or w/e but not AKs. so yea 88 is good and Ax sucks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

22 is worse that A2 usually but this changes very quickly. A6 &lt; 66 and AT &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt; TT.

edit: oh and grats on the score tonight
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:22 AM
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I guess its stronger, but would you not call with A2 way before 22 even though 22&gt;A2? Less than 88 you are almost certainly flipping while decent Ax hands or face card hands are generally ahead.

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All these posts and you still don't understand hand ranges?
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: $16: ITM hand against solid 2+2 reg

I'm always asking myself:
Why would we dislike a flip when we got the PP?
55% is a lot more than 50% in the long run.
But I never saw anyone write about this particular issue.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: $16: ITM hand against solid 2+2 reg

Are you calling with more PPs? Tighter than A9+? Tighter than KJ+?

Edit: If they are shoving 25% (which could be too wide) then it looks to me that 77+,A9+,KQ+ is ahead of their range barely.
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