cap river for value?

[cheer]

dude is 16/5/3 over 133

pf i think is standard?
flop standard?
river cap?


PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.66 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

River: (9.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.66 BB

[cpk]

For an online game, looks pretty standard.

[Xhad]

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dude is 16/5/3 over 133

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Crazy as this would be agaisnt a normal player, I'm tempted to fold preflop.

[WalkAmongUs]

I'd just call that river 3-bet. He sees the 3 flush cards out there AND your raise AND he doesn't seem to care about either one.

[Sarge85]

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I'd just call that river 3-bet. He sees the 3 flush cards out there AND your raise AND he doesn't seem to care about either one.

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It would seem unlikely given the action that the opponet is reading the hero for a stragiht.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

[Harv72b]

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It would seem unlikely given the action that the opponet is reading the hero for a stragiht.

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It's a 4 straight board. With the action on the prior streets villain is most definitely not bet/3betting the river without at least a straight himself. We've got the nut straight, but I don't think it's at all out of the realm of the possible that CO rivered himself the nut flush. So I just call the 3bet, hoping villain has JJ or something but expecting to see AK of spades.

Preflop is iffy. It's a small sample, but this guy does not look like the type to be opening up his raising range from LP...and even if he does, it's probably still well ahead of KJs. I always cringe when I fold a hand that strong preflop to a single raise, but I think this is one of the spots where I would. I do agree that the 3bet is vastly better than a coldcall, though.

[MoreWineII]

Capping is spewing imo, I'd call.

[TheHip41]

On the river, you are beating 3 combos of JJ, and losing to 1 combo of AKs, maybe AQs.

So I'm thinking you are a 3-2 or 3-1 favorite on the river. I'd cap.

PF, I'd probalby fold. 16/5 PF is pretty nitty.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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On the river, you are beating 3 combos of JJ, and losing to 1 combo of AKs, maybe AQs.

So I'm thinking you are a 3-2 or 3-1 favorite on the river. I'd cap.

PF, I'd probalby fold. 16/5 PF is pretty nitty.

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I think capping the river is a serious mistake, the hero is losing to AsKs,AsQs,AsJs,KsQs,QsJs,A7s,A6s,A5s,A4s,A3s,A2s. The hero is beating JJ,JT,QJ. So when the villain bets the river the hero is a 21-11 favorite, which means he shouldnt even raise the river to begin with unless we assume the villain will donk the flop with nothing with a hand like AJ, so capping a 3bet is serious spewage here without a read. Also, I wouldnt assume the villain is nitty after just 133 hands. I know Ive had his kind of stats over many 133 intervals. So I wouldnt assume this guy cant have a hand like As2s just cuz of his stats, in fact I would assume that he has all the hands i mentioned until I get a larger sample size on this guy's play.

[Harv72b]

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So I wouldnt assume this guy cant have a hand like As2s just cuz of his stats, in fact I would assume that he has all the hands i mentioned until I get a larger sample size on this guy's play.

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Villain capped preflop out of position. Even with this small a sample, I think we can narrow his range down pretty significantly.

I do, of course, agree that capping the river is bad.