Personality and overall attractiveness

[Evan]

I've heard countless times from girls "I don't think xyz is hot because he/she is an a-hole." I've always thought that was pretty stupid. Either you can't rationally separate physical appearance from personality or you are just too scared to honestly answer the question. Guys, for the most part, have no problem saying a girl is smoking hot even if she's a huge bitch.

However, most guys will take personality into account on the other end. For instance, if a girl is really cool/funny/whatever I think guys commonly bump up how they'd rate that girl's attractiveness.

I'm curious how big of a deal this is for you guys. One example of this is Pam on the office. She is obviously a good looking girl, but I think most people instinctively think she's way more attractive than her physical appearance would suggest because her character is just so sweet/endearing.

The video below is what made me write this post. The girl in the first minute or so is certainly not ugly by any means. She's maybe a 6 or so (THIS IS NOT THE POINT OF THE THREAD DON'T ARGUE ABOUT THIS GIRL'S 1-10 RATING), but I am REALLY attracted to her largely because she just seems really cool and fun and obviously doesn't take herself too seriously. If she starts at a 6, I'd say this little clip makes her as attractive to me as a "normal" 8.5. So she gets 2.5 points for being awesome.


Question 1: How much more attractive (in a numerical sense) does something like this make a girl for you?
Question 2: Find more examples (not really a question I suppose).

Girls reading this, I'm not sure the question really applies to you directly, but please comment as you see fit. I don't really want this thread to be about whether or not you can find guys hot even if they're douchebags. That might make an interesting thread, but I'd like to keep this one on the topic of guy's thoughts on the matter. If you think you have any personal experience (more guys like you because you're cool, fun, smart, etc) I'd love to hear that (or anything else you think is related).

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In case the video doesn't work for anyone here is where I found it.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

I think what's confusing is the double entendre of "attractive".

I think it would be easier if you said "that girl in the video is only marginally attractive to me, but her awesome personality makes her very appealing to me"

[Evan]

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I think what's confusing is the double entendre of "attractive".

I think it would be easier if you said "that girl in the video is only marginally attractive to me, but her awesome personality makes her very appealing to me"

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I think you understand what I mean. Maybe this will be clearer:

I would try to date/sex/whatever this girl as aggressively as an average girl that was 2.5 points hotter on a 1-10 scale because she seems like fun.

[guids]

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I think what's confusing is the double entendre of "attractive".

I think it would be easier if you said "that girl in the video is only marginally attractive to me, but her awesome personality makes her very appealing to me"

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I think you understand what I mean. Maybe this will be clearer:

I would try to date/sex/whatever this girl as aggressively as an average girl that was 2.5 points hotter on a 1-10 scale because she seems like fun.

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This is where I differ, I wouldnt try to sex this girl ASAP because she isnt hot. If I see a girl who is ok looks wise, but she is really cool, Id rather hang out and talk, or whatever, and try and sex a hot chick.

[Blarg]

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I think what's confusing is the double entendre of "attractive".

I think it would be easier if you said "that girl in the video is only marginally attractive to me, but her awesome personality makes her very appealing to me"

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This is much easier to separate out when you haven't seen the girl much or know her well. You still have your "meh" to get over, hanging around in the back of her mind, and you haven't had too much time to stew on how awesome she is yet. Next time you see her, that feeling that she is awesome will be there right from the start and make her look prettier immediately. At least that's how it is with me. I remember the awesome and forget the "meh" re: looks.

After a while, you might see an average or worse girl from an unexpected angle, or not know from behind that it's her or whatever, and suddenly be shocked when you process that it's that girl you find so attractive. Then sometimes you have to work off the "meh" factor for a while and reflect on how strange it is that your perceptions can be fooled. But perceptions aren't reality; there's always an "I" doing the perceiving, filtering everything. Including making very average girls look pretty cute.

[kipin]

Girl has to start out at like a 6 for me to be interested at all.

She can become a 10 if I find her personality attractive.

Edit: Video is indie hipster overload.

[emon87]

I disagree in this case but think you're pretty much right.

Also, for most guys IMO, they ignore personality when looking for random hookups, but take it into account (on both ends; plus for good personality, minus for bad) when looking for a serious relationship.

[doubLe a tom]

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I disagree in this case but think you're pretty much right.


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she went from like a 6 to a 4.

[daryn]

i know what you mean, totally

i really want to play ping pong now

[Evan]

I don't understand how anyone could think this makes a girl less attractive. Again, that's not the point but it is sort of baffling. She's obviously laid back and likes to have fun. That is a big plus for me.


Larry, I have no idea what you're talking about. If you think personality is a big deal in saying "she's a 5" or "she's a 7" then fine. I think most guys feel differently but I don't think I should have to point out that no trend is 100% right. As far as why there shouldn't be a "bump-down" I don't really know how to answer that. I never said there shouldn't be and I don't really have an opinion on it. I just said there usually isn't. Whether that "should" be the case or that's a "bad" thing I don't know or care.