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Old 11-14-2007, 05:00 PM
thekoenna thekoenna is offline
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Default top two pair vs. flush?

No reads on Villain

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BTN: $12.70
SB: $62.55
Hero (BB): $77.40
UTG: $39.65
MP: $47.75
CO: $21.30

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, UTG calls $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.50</font>, UTG calls $5.50, SB folds

Turn: ($17.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $32.15 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $18.15

River: ($81.80) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $81.80 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Queens) and LOST (-$39.65 NET)
UTG showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $78.80 (+$39.15 NET)

Turn bet/fold? I think I'm commited and if don't bet he would be betting everytime if this scare card comes.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:01 PM
David1234 David1234 is offline
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Default Re: top two pair vs. flush?

looks ok just bad luck
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:19 PM
spaz spaz is offline
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Default Re: top two pair vs. flush?

$14 into $17.50 on a bad turn card is a bit much. If villain isn't a total dumbass, I think it's safe to bet more like $10 and fold to a shove/substantial raise as 99, TJs, and the flush all make sense. If he's capable of doing this with AK or AQ with or without the club, it's definitely a call.

So the question is, does villain often limp/call AK and AQ utg? If not, I think you have a good idea of where you're at once he shoves turn.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:30 PM
Milky Milky is offline
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Default Re: top two pair vs. flush?

I don't raise pf here and if I do it's to $3. Also, don't post results.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:22 PM
mehm mehm is offline
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Default Re: top two pair vs. flush?

imo raising a utg call with kq is a bad idea. You will almost always be isolating yourself against a better hand (which in fact you did).

Otherwise, I'd make the flop bet stronger because villan has really good implied odds against you (you being big stack). Since you are showing strength, if he hits the flush, he can probably stack up. Not really sure what I'd do after the flush card came, it would depend on the game and player I suppose.
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