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Old 11-05-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default nl100 turn insta c-minraise

Villain limped quit a bit.

#Game No : 6475664712
***** Hand History for Game 6475664712 *****
$100 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, November 05, 09:29:52 ET 2007
Table Table 126848 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: DasSchnuff ( $108.16 USD )
Seat 3: LeBigBabou ( $130.40 USD )
Seat 4: Lets_Gamble_TAG ( $100.18 USD )
Seat 5: peterdeman ( $42.26 USD )
Seat 6: vygotsky ( $109.52 USD )
Seat 2: hero ( $132.36 USD )
LeBigBabou posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Lets_Gamble_TAG posts big blind [$1 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
peterdeman folds
vygotsky calls [$1 USD]
DasSchnuff folds
hero raises [$5 USD]
LeBigBabou folds
>You have options at Table 128025 Table!.
Lets_Gamble_TAG folds
vygotsky calls [$4 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
vygotsky checks
hero bets [$8 USD]
vygotsky calls [$8 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
vygotsky checks
hero bets [$22 USD]
vygotsky raises [$44 USD]
hero is all-In [$97.36 USD]
vygotsky is all-In [$52.52 USD]
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: nl100 turn insta c-minraise

Your turn play is only profitable if villain is a donkey who gets it in real light.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: nl100 turn insta c-minraise

hello 7
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:06 AM
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Your turn play is only profitable if villain is a donkey who gets it in real light.

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Umm Kx not possible?
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:09 AM
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Your turn play is only profitable if villain is a donkey who gets it in real light.

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Umm Kx not possible?

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My experience at Full Tilt/Stars show that not enough people stack off with KJo or worse on the turn to make this your standard line against a villain who you only know has been limping a lot. Have you seen what kind of hands villain goes to showdown with?
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: nl100 turn insta c-minraise

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Your turn play is only profitable if villain is a donkey who gets it in real light.

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Umm Kx not possible?

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My experience at Full Tilt/Stars show that not enough people stack off with KJo or worse on the turn to make this your standard line against a villain who you only know has been limping a lot. Have you seen what kind of hands villain goes to showdown with?

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IMO a guy who limps a lot will stack off with KJ about 80% of the time.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: nl100 turn insta c-minraise

its a weird spot with no reads on the player besides that he limps alot, after the turn your hand has showdown value, you want to practice pot control here... i think he wakes up with 5 or 77 more than he stacks off with a weaker king ch behind on the turn if he checks again than value bet.. if he leads riv i'd tank forever and probably call
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: nl100 turn insta c-minraise

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hello 7

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Hello 5 you mean?

I'm checking this turn unless I know he's a station.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:33 PM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: nl100 turn insta c-minraise

how often will he call a flop cbet with KJ. How often will he insta-minraise turn. I think the turn is a fold as played.

A turn check isn't a bad option. You can possibly get better value from small pocket pairs/sevens on the river. Betting is fine too, but it should be a bet/fold in general.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: nl100 turn insta c-minraise

This is really ugly IMO, hoping he floated with kj high oop, hit his king and is playing it like the nuts. Betting the k isnt terrible since a lot of ppl interpret it as betting a scare card and call with a mid pp but when he check min-raises u - without a read stating otherwise - i would insta-fold. If u really wanna stack off (i wouldnt without a strong read) then i would call and call a river shove since then at least u can include maaaybe some reverse floats which r reluctant or some mid pps which he decided to turn into bluffs in his range.
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