OMG I folded set vs mega action 150BB deep..100 NL 6max

[nevereverwin]

SB is regular TAG with stats like 20/10 over large sample. I think he is wining player at this level.

BB is rock with 14/3 stats over large sample.

CO is unknown player with 32/7 stats over 70 hands..

No other reads.

Button ($39.38)
SB ($159.78)
BB ($64.09)
Hero ($162.57)
MP ($129.62)
CO ($75.83)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $16, CO calls $16, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $159.28 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $48.09 (All-In), Hero folds....

My thoght process.

I raise 50% and limp 50% UTG with small PP (so comments like "raise pre" dont bother plz)

when SB leads flop and BB(rock) raises him I was sure that if I push I got called by better hand allways so I coldcalled and CO did the same then SB goes allin and BB snapcalls.. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I took 1 min and was sure 1 of them had flush.. if so other possible holdings are either flush too or set (I ruled out 2 pairs, QQ and naked A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] automaticly maybe CO had A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] but not SB,BB) and if one of them have set then my outs are slim to hit my FH...

Any thoghts welcome [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[invid]

i would have folded when the BB rr..doing anything but folding mid set in a 4 way pot on that board is suicide

[invid]

btw raise pf yeah?

[TimberBee]

Raise pre and you wouldn't have been in this position.

[bubaloo]

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I raise 50% and limp 50% UTG with small PP (so comments like "raise pre" dont bother plz)

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raise pre

if you raise pre i dont think you would be in this mess.

as played fold seems ok i think.

[illegit]

Srsly, raise pre

"Don't tell me to raise pre, even though it's an important part of the hand and openlimping small pairs 50% UTG sucks"

Post flop looks OK. Pretty sure you never have the best hand though you're drawing pretty live a lot of the time against a couple made flushes.

[spyderracing]

This is like just barely a fold. If the shorty had like 3/4 of a stack it would be a call.

[keikiwai]

i raise the flop

but i also raise pf

[Spy Dog]

BB is committed when he raises the flop. Therefore, I 3-bet the flop and if SB has a flush and pushes I will have no tough decisions to make because it's an easy call.

As played.....?????? I dunno. BB is short, Hero and CO have under-represented their hands, so SB could be pushing a lot of hands here with what he could perceive as dead money in the middle. I'm pushing because I don't mind going broke with middle set, but would break something if I folded and had the best hand.

[TianYuan]

Board: 5c 3c Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.138% 33.14% 00.00% 1373496 0.00 { 55 }
Hand 1: 33.431% 33.43% 00.00% 1385637 0.00 { 3d3h, 3d3s, 3h3s, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac8c, Ac7c, Ac6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, Kc8c, Kc7c, Kc6c, Kc5c, Kc4c, Kc3c, Kc2c, QcJc, QcTc, Qc9c, Qc8c, Qc7c, Qc6c, Qc5c, Qc4c, Qc3c, Qc2c, JcTc, Jc9c, Jc8c, Jc7c, Jc6c, Jc5c, Jc4c, Jc3c, Jc2c, Tc9c, Tc8c, Tc7c, Tc6c, Tc5c, Tc4c, Tc3c, Tc2c, 9c8c, 9c7c, 9c6c, 9c5c, 9c4c, 9c3c, 9c2c, 8c7c, 8c6c, 8c5c, 8c4c, 8c3c, 8c2c, 7c6c, 7c5c, 7c4c, 7c3c, 7c2c, 6c5c, 6c4c, 6c3c, 6c2c, 5c4c, 5c3c, 5c2c, 4c3c, 4c2c, 3c2c }
Hand 2: 33.431% 33.43% 00.00% 1385637 0.00 { 3d3h, 3d3s, 3h3s, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac8c, Ac7c, Ac6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, Kc8c, Kc7c, Kc6c, Kc5c, Kc4c, Kc3c, Kc2c, QcJc, QcTc, Qc9c, Qc8c, Qc7c, Qc6c, Qc5c, Qc4c, Qc3c, Qc2c, JcTc, Jc9c, Jc8c, Jc7c, Jc6c, Jc5c, Jc4c, Jc3c, Jc2c, Tc9c, Tc8c, Tc7c, Tc6c, Tc5c, Tc4c, Tc3c, Tc2c, 9c8c, 9c7c, 9c6c, 9c5c, 9c4c, 9c3c, 9c2c, 8c7c, 8c6c, 8c5c, 8c4c, 8c3c, 8c2c, 7c6c, 7c5c, 7c4c, 7c3c, 7c2c, 6c5c, 6c4c, 6c3c, 6c2c, 5c4c, 5c3c, 5c2c, 4c3c, 4c2c, 3c2c }

SHIP IT

If I did this correctly, you should win 1/3 of all pots which means you have to call ;p

+Your and CO's call might have induced some kind of push over the top by SB as he might view you as weak and feels like he can gamble it up for half a buyin with AcXx or something..
I dunno. But they can basically have any 2 suited cards given that they are in the blinds.

Oh and SERIOUSLY, raise preflop.