FT200 Pair+flushdraw gets ACTION

[Nielsio]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $231.00
Hero (BB): $194.00
UTG: $197.00
MP: $103.55
CO: $78.00
BTN: $94.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, MP calls $2.00, 2 folds, SB calls $1.00, Hero checks

Flop: ($8) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $23.00</font>, MP calls $23.00, Hero ..?



Essentially readless, except the coldcaller might be tightish (tiny sample).

[keikiwai]

well, MP's range is skewed toward FDs

UTG prob has a Q or maybe a FD

shoving's nice cause it looks strong and may fold out MP's larger FD

since the Q is a diamond, UTG can't have TP+FD, so I'd lean toward popping it up to $111 and calling, and if called shoving any turn

i think it's a good spot since you can show so much strength

the other option is folding, which is prob. less variance, since you're flipping at best

[Jay Riall]

Er folding is no way an option here given the odds (implied and direct) we are getting. I think 3betting and calling are pretty similar.

[Nielsio]

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Er folding is no way an option here given the odds (implied and direct) we are getting. I think 3betting and calling are pretty similar.

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You're forgetting reverse implied odds.

[Oct0puz]

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shoving's nice cause it looks strong and may fold out MP's larger FD

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With that stack size I doubt MP is folding anything. So when we shove we will propably be flipping at best if UTG folds. If UTG also calls we are crushed. I think I would fold. Calling obv. sucks.

[Jay Riall]

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Er folding is no way an option here given the odds (implied and direct) we are getting. I think 3betting and calling are pretty similar.

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You're forgetting reverse implied odds.

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No I'm not. You can still profitably call here because direct and implieds minus the reverses still mean a call is +EV.

I'm actually leaning towards a shove now because of the fact we can fold higher FDs (or get in money vs them with an equity advantage), Qs etc, and also because 55 is pretty unlikely.

[Unknown Soldier]

call. i think utg is a bit less likely to have a draw here simply because he limped utg

[keikiwai]

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call. i think utg is a bit less likely to have a draw here simply because he limped utg

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aren't sooted connectors and sooted aces the prime limping hands besides small pocket pairs?

[Unknown Soldier]

yeah i wasnt really getting at that though. I just was observing that villain has showed some passive tendancies. So I just think it's reasonbly likely that he would play a draw passively. Which makes my decision a call. I don't think the board is drawy enough to get it in here anyway imo

[Lucky]

I like raising here.

I would say all-in, but making it 110 probably looks stronger. It's clear the money going in on turn, and looks maybe less like draw than allin.

The thing is, you'll often be against a better hand and a better draw. If you put in big raise, both QJ and bigger flush draw are likely to fold.