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Old 08-15-2007, 10:41 PM
hoyasaxa hoyasaxa is offline
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Default 6.50: JJ in BB

unknowns, early on in multitable set

do you hate the RR? what is flop line?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP2 (t1305)
MP3 (t1990)
CO (t1455)
Button (t1280)
SB (t1470)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1605)
UTG+1 (t1395)
MP1 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls t80, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t255</font>, UTG calls t175, Button calls t175.

Flop: (t785) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero?
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: 6.50: JJ in BB

I'd just call pf. 3betting makes it so hard to play OOP on lots of flops.

As played, check and reevaluate based on their actions.
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:51 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: 6.50: JJ in BB

i call preflop as well. that 3-bet with JJ can get you in a lot of trouble, plus if you get repopped preflop you have to fold.

i'd check the flop and see what happens.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:23 AM
DontTapTheGlass DontTapTheGlass is offline
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Default Re: 6.50: JJ in BB

Repopping OOP with anything less than QQ is never a good idea.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:35 AM
DeuceSeven DeuceSeven is offline
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Default Re: 6.50: JJ in BB

Against unknowns I just call. Your reraise to 255 isn't going to get anyone to fold. Any decent reraise is going to get you pot committed so either reraise to something like 350 and be prepared to call a shove or just call the initial raise.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:45 AM
TheGame232 TheGame232 is offline
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Default Re: 6.50: JJ in BB

It depends how good your read on those players is.
When they play loose aggressive I would definately raise just for value. make em pay to see the flop with crap hands like A-rag! - and on the flop it is in my opinion absolutely necessery to bet for information! - even a small probing bet will give you a good feeling for where you re at. otherwise you are ether giving free cards - or are faced with a taff decision if someone tryes to bloff in this spot (becouse it is almost a perfect spot to bluff!)
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: 6.50: JJ in BB

A big leak in my game was repopping with JJ and playing hands like TT-88 too aggressively with one over. We really need to check here on the flop as played, there aren't many bets we can make that don't commit us to stacking off here. At a 6.50 expect most players with a Q to pot it here b/c they just get all mad and have something to prove most of the time when they get RR'ed and flop a pair.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:55 AM
T3485 T3485 is offline
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Default Re: 6.50: JJ in BB

The reraise is so large that if it's called, even by only one player, your continuation bet on the flop has to be large enough to make your opponents respect it, and to not give him good odds to simply call.

I think I call here as well to keep the pot smallish and also setup a non-pot committed continuation bet on the flop. I think if an A or K falls I think we check and re-evaluate.
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