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Old 06-03-2007, 02:48 PM
Micturition Man Micturition Man is offline
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Default Badugi resources online?

Are there any good articles on badugi strategy by people who know what they are talking about?

It seems like the fundamentals of this game are much less well-established than, for example, 2-7 TD. There is a great disparity in predraw play even among competent players.
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:05 PM
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Are there any good articles on badugi strategy by people who know what they are talking about?


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Deathdonkey has a superbasic article, which I think is at deucescracked. I think that's about it.

What sort of advice do you want? I'd be willing to write up an article if I thought it would be interesting. Badugi tends to be either awfully straightforward or entirely meta, though.
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:54 PM
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I think you should write and article because I know that I would read it!
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Old 06-03-2007, 04:25 PM
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Are there any good articles on badugi strategy by people who know what they are talking about?


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Deathdonkey has a superbasic article, which I think is at deucescracked. I think that's about it.

What sort of advice do you want? I'd be willing to write up an article if I thought it would be interesting. Badugi tends to be either awfully straightforward or entirely meta, though.

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Right now what I am most interested in is preflop opening and 3-betting standards by position... really the core of any limit poker game.

For example in what situations do you play 2 card hands?

(But don't limit yourself to this topic if you feel like expanding.)
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: Badugi resources online?

Can someone link to the first article?
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:53 AM
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Can someone link to the first article?

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http://deathdonkey.com/?p=78 as found in the FAQ of this forum...
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: Badugi resources online?

is it possible to play badugi online?
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:01 AM
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Default Re: Badugi resources online?

While I agree position is valuable, position also changes in badugi much like it does in a stud game. In certain games, say you limp in EP, someone raises from MP, and you get 4 or 5 way action with the blinds coming in.... all the sudden you are in the best position to profit if you make your hand. This is especially true if the preflop raiser never checks behind with a made badugi on a big street, and always bets all 123, 124 type hands, which quite alot of badugi players fall into the trap.

You can play much weaker draws when the guy driving the action is directly to your left in multiway pots because you'll have all the information you'll ever need. It's either 2 bets to you and you dump, or you're closing out the action most always. Conversely, in most large multiway pots, you can hardly profitably play a hand if you've got direct position on the pat/driving the action player. If you're drawing you're going to be putting in 2 or more bets to draw way too often, and if you make a hand you'll end up winning alot of smaller pots. Most the big pots are won when you make a hand in a multi-way pot OOP.

In Heads-up pots where players tend to give up with 1 draw to come if they think they have an inferior draw, I tend to play my strong 3 card draws much differently than most of my opponnents. I always try to show weakness at some point in the hand, to encourage a weaker 3 card hand to think they might be good.

Start off a heads up match raising before the first draw with an A23, or catching something similar after a 2 card draw and checking it and you really open yourself up to be able to play many more hands and many more weaker 3 card hands and taking pot after pot.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:58 AM
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In certain games, say you limp in EP, someone raises from MP, and you get 4 or 5 way action with the blinds coming in

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I think anyone is fully justified in ignoring my advice if they're in a game like this. Somehow I never end up in them. Possibly because outLAGging LAGs is much more fun.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:51 AM
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always bets all 123, 124 type hands, which quite alot of badugi players fall into the trap.


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i'm interested in you expanding on this if it goes beyond what what said in your post. if it has to do w/ slowplaying (missing the small bet after the 1st draw to gain the big bet after the second draw) then nevermind, i get what you are saying and will have to think about the concept some more.

if there is some other purpose to not betting ABC and ABD in the dark after the 1st and 2nd draws then please elaborate.

DD's article at deuces cracked was all i needed to crush every badugi game i've played in. everything else is meta.

also, for what it's worth, i am not quite on board w/ the whole push/pull thing. but people over valuing rough 3 cards is definitely where the money in this game comes from. 3 to an A7 is the most mis-played hand in the game. that's why 3-bet my A2's, to isolate against an over-valued 3 to a 7.

and people at the mid-limits probably don't snow enough which means they can't VB any badugi like they should be able to.
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