Completely Lost with JJ in the BB ($10NL)

[Predator314]

Button is 20/16/13 after over 203 hands
SB is 33/20/6 after 98 hands and had 3 bet Button several times from the SB.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $11.25
BTN: $9.85
SB: $10.60
Hero (BB): $10.75
UTG: $10.70

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.15</font>, Hero calls $1.05???, BTN folds

Flop: ($2.65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $4</font>, Hero fumbles around and wonders why he didn't practice better table selection.

[thoman8r]

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Hero fumbles around and wonders why he didn't practice better table selection.

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This is the key right here. 10NL is such a donkfest there is no reason to be sitting at a table with 2 players like this.

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Fold I guess. Tough spot. Pf ok I think.

[Ramana]

I think JJ is too weak to RR pf. No big sin to fold pf. We basically call to flop a set or an overpair. Everything else we just have to fold. There's no reason to donkbet that flop.

[members_only]

That's not a donk bet. And there are lots of reasons to bet the flop

[Sniiii]

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I think JJ is too weak to RR pf. No big sin to fold pf. We basically call to flop a set or an overpair. Everything else we just have to fold. There's no reason to donkbet that flop.

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JJ is definitely not too weak to 3bet PF when in position. If you have played micro-stakes, you'd know that these fellas raise with ace-rag, and hands much weaker than that.

[Ramana]

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That's not a donk bet. And there are lots of reasons to bet the flop

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name some of them please

[Richard Tanner]

So we know button is likely to steal and we know SB has often raised BTN's steal attempts. We have JJ which against these two hands in this situation is the nuts. Reraise PF, if we lose, we lose, and we make a note about it for later.

Cody

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value - he can call with weaker pairs and draws (mainly fd i guess as you have two Js), and he is not that likely to have checked a better hand (though it is of course possible)

makes the hand easier to play - say you check behind. there are lots of turn cards you don't like. and even if a blank comes and he bets it? and shoves the river?

i think those are some good reasons, do you agree? JJ is surely quite a bit ahead of his range

[bozzer]

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JJ is surely quite a bit ahead of his range

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i can't see a call with much we beat.