86s turns frush, all hell breaks loose - NL $50 6m

[AZplaya]

Both Villians are 45/10 donks. Not complete retards, but pretty sucky.

Full Tilt Poker - Pot Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $53.15
BB: $92.50
UTG: $9.75
MP: $24.50
CO: $65.40
Hero (BTN): $50.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, SB calls $2.00, BB folds, MP calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.50</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $17.75</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $50.90</font>, MP folds, Hero???

Alot of donks will do this with QQx and I snap call, but this dude just saw a raise and a reraise and he still shoved on a scary [censored] board. Am I good here often enough to call??? If you fold, at what psr do you call?(ie, if he has $10 less do you call?)

[kolotoure]

ewww. I think I call about another $13 here but am folding here

[mdm13]

Considering that two of the most likely Qx combos are boats (QT + QK) and one of the other two likelies could have redraw to a higher (AhQ) flush along with the boat outs you are either drawing dead, or a little bit ahead. Unless these are true droolers who would do this with straights this is a fold.

[illwill514]

easy fold no?

[bknollenberg]

fold. you're not going to be good here very often.

[rothko]

as played, fold. you shoulda just called, in the first place.

[kaz2107]

if the board wasnt paired i call. but in this spot i fold. we beat like the few straight combos and a couple random Kx hands

[Waingro]

Fwiw I think it is vv unlikely that this type of player shoves a boat here. It is uncanny how often this is trips. I call.

[Logun]

If you called I think the best you could hope to see would be Qx or AhJx or JhQx.

This is a crappy situation, but you did say they were not completely retarded so I make a crying fold.

After a few more responses I wuold be totally interested in results (if SB showed) just to see what some one is capable of doing this with

[YesMehFriend]

Nah, I'm with the call here: if you assume his range is boats and the nut straight we're almost on a coinflip:

ext results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,364 games 0.005 secs 272,800 games/sec

Board: Kh Qh Qs Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.308% 45.31% 00.00% 618 0.00 { 8h6h }
Hand 1: 54.692% 54.69% 00.00% 746 0.00 { TT, AJs, KQs, QTs, AJo, KQo, QTo }


If you add some AQ etc. hands, the 2nd straigt then it's pretty easy imo.
And I really doubt he'll play a boat this way but not a straight / trips.