FPS in 3-bet pot?

FionnMac · #1 09-04-2007, 08:50 PM

Villain is a LAG, 25/20/4, we have been battling pf with me showing down a light 4-bet, but nothing significant postflop. I just felt he is almost always drawing dead or to 2/5 outs or whatever. He prob views me as a standard TAG, and knows i shove spades on the flop, so i was actually hoping for a card like this for him to use as a scare card. FPS?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($430.60)
SB ($438)
BB ($708.30)
UTG ($518.90)
Hero ($1038.26)
CO ($458)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, SB raises to $52, 1 fold, Hero calls $36.

Flop: ($108) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $80, Hero calls $80.

Turn: ($268) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($268) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB calls $306 (All-In), Hero calls?

tufat23 · #2 09-04-2007, 08:53 PM

probably a fold

aislephive · #3 09-04-2007, 08:55 PM

Who is villain?

I raise flop a lot with tags I have history with, btw. Even like a minraise would be sufficient. I'd also probably bet the turn here, but checking is ok.

River is a really sick spot. I'd probably call, but it's really hard to comment on this kind of spot that is so read and flow dependant.

FionnMac · #4 09-04-2007, 09:02 PM

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Who is villain?

I raise flop a lot with tags I have history with, btw. Even like a minraise would be sufficient. I'd also probably bet the turn here, but checking is ok.

River is a really sick spot. I'd probably call, but it's really hard to comment on this kind of spot that is so read and flow dependant.

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EuroFish

Since i checked turn to induce a bluff, isn't it theoretically incorrect to fold river, even on a nasty river card such as this? My thinking was that i'm a nit, he knows i'm a nit, hence he will often shove his hands that have no showdown value. Which is quite a big range imo. If it's not already obvious, i was trying to rep KK/QQ/KJ etc by checking turn

Better Than U · #5 09-04-2007, 09:16 PM

You can't fold now, that's exploidable.

FionnMac · #6 09-04-2007, 09:19 PM

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You can't fold now, that's exploidable.

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I appreciate comments on all streets, but i was paticularly wondering about flop and turn tbh.

Jay Riall · #7 09-04-2007, 09:45 PM

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You can't fold now, that's exploidable.

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Please tell me how thats exploitable.

Fionn - I think your line is fine, river could go either way, I probably fold without a better read.

FionnMac · #8 09-04-2007, 11:36 PM

results for anyone that's interested - i called and he took it down with 25cc

AAismyfriend · #9 09-04-2007, 11:51 PM

I would bet this turn every time given history, and I'd make it like 1/2 pot to give him room to bluff shove.

Jamougha · #10 09-04-2007, 11:53 PM

Given history I think you should push the flop, and if not bet the turn.