4bet QQ against possible squeeze ?

#1 08-13-2007, 03:57 AM

villain is euphoricism PS regular 14/11/5.5. He has 3bet me semilightly in the past. Is my 4bet correct here ? I was running like 19/13/3 at the table.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($58.25)
CO ($25.95)
Button ($50)
SB ($14.25)
BB ($26.25)
Hero ($68.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, Button raises to $9, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24.5, CO folds, Button raises to $50, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $51.75

Better Than U · #2 08-13-2007, 04:03 AM

4 betting Euph there is so bad. he's usually a full ring $50 player so you can see your fold is good but against a normal reg. I'm AI here.

thac · #3 08-13-2007, 04:07 AM

After you 4-bet half ur stack, it doesn't matter if you know he has AA or KK, you have odds to call and this is a horrible fold. But don't 4-bet this anyways, no regulars will squeeze light here, they 3-bet a bit light, but squeezing is omgscary to them.

#4 08-13-2007, 04:09 AM

So just fold next time ? Can`t just call for set value here. I put his 3betting range on TT,JJ,KK,AK,AA here.

thac · #5 08-13-2007, 04:12 AM

And when you 4-bet you get TT and JJ to fold, while getting him to shove AA, KK and AK.

If CO had more chips I'd call his 3-bet but it's just so spewy. You're raising UTG and euph, being a nit, STILL 3-bets you. This is never a bluff squeeze.

#6 08-13-2007, 04:18 AM

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After you 4-bet half ur stack, it doesn't matter if you know he has AA or KK, you have odds to call and this is a horrible fold. But don't 4-bet this anyways, no regulars will squeeze light here, they 3-bet a bit light, but squeezing is omgscary to them.

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Pokerstove, is this right ?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.857% 39.64% 00.22% 19005028 104399.00 { QdQh }
Hand 1: 60.143% 59.92% 00.22% 28730686 104399.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }

If these numbers are correct I like 4bet shoving. Thought the numbers looked much worse

#7 08-13-2007, 04:20 AM

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And when you 4-bet you get TT and JJ to fold, while getting him to shove AA, KK and AK.

If CO had more chips I'd call his 3-bet but it's just so spewy. You're raising UTG and euph, being a nit, STILL 3-bets you. This is never a bluff squeeze.

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Yea, your right Thac, learned something. Thx

thac · #8 08-13-2007, 04:20 AM

I only like 4bet shoving if he calls with JJ too.. you may as well have 87s when you 4-bet shove here.

meccaNES · #9 08-13-2007, 04:22 AM

Maybe i'm not understanding this. Why would you 4-bet/commit yourself and shove if you know all your 4-bet is going to get is AA KK and AKo+ AI against you? Doesn't that mean you shouldn't 4bet someone this tight?

#10 08-13-2007, 04:22 AM

yea, not against this guy no good.