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Old 05-28-2007, 07:25 PM
Lessu Lessu is offline
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A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] / A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ,board 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] against 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 45,05%
3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 53,13%
tie 1,82%

A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 48,18%
3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 50,61%
tie 1,21%

Why is A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3% better than A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ?

straight flushes break even so what's going on?

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Old 05-28-2007, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: no limit probability problem

Most of it is due to straights coming in with the 7 of
spades. There are more offsuit sevens that help when the
4d 3d faces the As 7d.
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:18 PM
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Most of it is due to straights coming in with the 7 of
spades. There are more offsuit sevens that help when the
4d 3d faces the As 7d.

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seven is never an out for As7d or Ad7s, 43 always makes straight with it or flush.
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:07 PM
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A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] doesn't win when the board is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] does win when the board is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:04 PM
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A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] doesn't win when the board is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] does win when the board is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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But A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] doesn't win when the board is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

The straight flush possibilities goes even.

2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] both A7's lose.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:14 PM
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board 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 45,05%
3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 53,13%
tie 1,82%

A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 48,18%
3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 50,61%
tie 1,21%

Why is A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3% better than A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ?



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To clarify what bigpooch said, 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] has 17 outs against A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], but only 16 outs against A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Either way, there are 9 outs to a flush (and 3 outs to a pair of 3s). Against A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], there are 6 other cards completing the OESD, and not the flush. Against A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], there are only 5 ways to make the straight, 2 7s, and 3 2s. The 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] gives 43 one of the flushes already counted, not a straight.
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