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TT - Argh!
Button was pretty much unknown.
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls. Flop: (10.40 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, MP2 calls. Turn: (11.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls. Hmm, im not sure what im still beating, but was hoping to hit another heart on the river. River: (15.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. No heart, but 16 bets in so i call, pray and make a note. |
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Re: TT - Argh!
Against an unknown I would probably fold PF.
On the flop- MP2 doesn't see a A (or K?) on board and so hits the loud pedal. You raise (?) and button comes alive. I would have definitely folded on the flop- without seeing what the button was going to do. River: "No heart". so what? The flush was probably made on the turn, by the button. And if you did hit another heart on the river, were you not worried about Ah, Kh or Jh??? |
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Re: TT - Argh!
I would fold that after the flop's button 3-bet.
Clearly, after the turn raise its over. Staying in is just expensive. In any case, please put the limit into your headline for the next post. |
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Re: TT - Argh!
Pf is fine with me. After the flop 3bet, I'm certainly not convinced I'm beaten yet. This could still be a draw or some draw+pr combo. But I do think it's a good spot to just call and look for a safe (= not draw-completing) turn card.
Also, I think you can fold the turn. If you look at the available [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]s, there's very little that I can see him calling 3 cold with. 78s, 89s, 9Ts - all of those are impossible. Leaves utter trash hands like 34s or 57s or [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]s that beat you. |
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Re: TT - Argh!
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Against an unknown I would probably fold PF. On the flop- MP2 doesn't see a A (or K?) on board and so hits the loud pedal. You raise (?) and button comes alive. I would have definitely folded on the flop- without seeing what the button was going to do. River: "No heart". so what? The flush was probably made on the turn, by the button. And if you did hit another heart on the river, were you not worried about Ah, Kh or Jh??? [/ QUOTE ] Folding preflop is rediculously bad. I mean you shouldn't be playing poker bad. Folding the flop for one bet is bad. |
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Re: TT - Argh!
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I would have definitely folded on the flop- without seeing what the button was going to do [/ QUOTE ] If you had AA, would you fold that too ? [ QUOTE ] And if you did hit another heart on the river, were you not worried about Ah, Kh or Jh??? [/ QUOTE ] Of course i would be worried. But if i had made a flush on the river - would you fold it getting 16 to 1 ? |
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Re: TT - Argh!
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I would fold that after the flop's button 3-bet. [/ QUOTE ] Yuck. You might have the best hand. If you don't you are getting 18:1 closing the action and a T will usually give you a win. Plus you have a couple weak back door draws. |
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In any case, please put the limit into your headline for the next post. [/ QUOTE ] Supernit, uh.. ah... dubi dup ... dup duh. |
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Re: TT - Argh!
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If you had AA, would you fold that too ? [/ QUOTE ] No, but that's not what you had. |
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Re: TT - Argh!
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[ QUOTE ] In any case, please put the limit into your headline for the next post. [/ QUOTE ] Supernit, uh.. ah... dubi dup ... dup duh. [/ QUOTE ] I was thinking about putting that in or not - I guess I need a few thousand more posts to make such a statement looking good :-) |
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