AceAce at Commerce 4/8 (with poll!)

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The game is loose, routinely 7-8 to the flop for 3-4 bets each, zzz. Additional information: Everyone is loose passive except Old Nitty Guy and Hero. Game is played with $1 meaning a ridiculous amount of chips that make people chase even harder.

Commerce 4/8 Hold'em <font color="blue">(9 handed)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, 2 calls, <font color="red">Old Nitty Guy raises</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, 3 calls, <font color="red">Old Nitty Guy Caps</font> , 4 calls.

Flop: (19 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">Old Nitty Guy Bets</font>, Hero...
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[BigBadBabar]

raisy daisy

[Chino987]

call, raise the turn.

otherwise you're prob going to lose this hand

[BigBadBabar]

lol?

[Chino987]

SSHE p 163 KK on a multiway capped pot.

anyone with a gutshot or bottom pair is getting correct odds to call a flop raise.

[ProfessorBen]

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SSHE p 163 KK on a multiway capped pot.

anyone with a gutshot or bottom pair is getting correct odds to call a flop raise.

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Plan when you get 3bet on the turn instead of the flop?

[Chino987]

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SSHE p 163 KK on a multiway capped pot.

anyone with a gutshot or bottom pair is getting correct odds to call a flop raise.

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Plan when you get 3bet on the turn instead of the flop?

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fold. nitty is not 3 betting KK on the turn.

i doubt this will happen though. nitty prob isnt capping QQ or JJ PF

[ProfessorBen]

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SSHE p 163 KK on a multiway capped pot.

anyone with a gutshot or bottom pair is getting correct odds to call a flop raise.

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Plan when you get 3bet on the turn instead of the flop?

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fold. nitty is not 3 betting KK on the turn.

i doubt this will happen though. nitty prob isnt capping QQ or JJ PF

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Nitty is also very capable of checking the turn.

[Chino987]

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SSHE p 163 KK on a multiway capped pot.

anyone with a gutshot or bottom pair is getting correct odds to call a flop raise.

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Plan when you get 3bet on the turn instead of the flop?

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fold. nitty is not 3 betting KK on the turn.

i doubt this will happen though. nitty prob isnt capping QQ or JJ PF

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Nitty is also very capable of checking the turn.

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why would he when no one shows any strength?

i honestly have never seen anyone nitty enough to not bet KK on the turn with no ace on board. the only possible turn check card would be a club, and that isnt a particularly big deal because we have a nut redraw and a flush draw wasnt going anywhere on the flop anyways.

[Bob T.]

Just try and build a big pot.

Raise, call a threebet. Raise the turn, call it down after you get raised later on in the hand. Moan about how aces never win for you. Next hand.