54s - Big Draw vs Possible Stealer

[SixForty]

Back in my Limit days, I would float a lot preflop with suited connectors like this. But in NL, should I be seeing a flop here with this hand against a possible stealer? Or do I just get myself in too much trouble?

Once I get to the flop, easy Checkraise All In, correct?

Tournament:
$2+0.25 Buy-in with Rebuys
Blinds t250/t500/t50
Currently 7-handed
Still far enough away from the money not to worry about it

Reads:
Only been at this table for a couple of orbits, table playing a little bit loose.
Villain - hasn't done anything out of the ordinary yet, seems straightforward

Stacks: (Average Stack approximately t18,000, I am in top 10 out of 90)
UTG (t26,415)
MP1 (t15,244)
MP2 (t27,423)
HJ (t31,814)
CO (t9,340)
Villain (t11,995)
Hero (t31,849)

(Note - there is no small blind in this hand)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises to t1,500</font>, Hero calls t1,000

Flop: (t3,350) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#0000FF">Hero . . . ?</font>

I figure that regardless of whether he has a hand, or he is stealing, I can expect him to bet most of the time. On top of that, I can expect a bet that is sized such that my checkraise all in may put him to a very tough decision with sufficient fold equity, and I don't mind a call or a fold at that point. Am I thinking about this correctly?

[swede554]

You are, expect that you shouldn't be to concerned about creating fold equity here. You should be more concerned about getting full value from his entire range. Given his stacksize I like a c/r, because we'll get value from his entire range. By that I mean if we lead, he'll fold most hands we crush and jam hands that currently have us beat but that we have plenty of equity against. Since we're probably getting it in on this flop if we're beat whether we c/r or lead, I want to get value from the hands he'll CB and fold to a c/r, but can't call with or jam over a lead.

If he was slightly deeper, say 17-20k or so I'd like a bet/3bet.

[swede554]

Regarding preflop, this is a fold imo vs a straightforward player. You could 3bet resteal, but that's another issue. If villain is deeper (20k+) you can call because you'll have better implied odds if you flop big, but I think in this spot it's a fold.

[DeuceSeven]

I'd prefer to have a read pf before I call with 54s. If villain seems straight forward I don't mind a reraise pf. I'd rather fold or reraise, but that's my style. Calling occasionally isn't too bad, although I would like to know that I can win a big pot if I hit with a sc, we're pretty deep so I guess a call isn't horrible.

I definitely check/raise the flop as you'll see a cbet here almost all the time.

[Pokerfarian]

This is a really unusual situation because of the absence of SB. I think it makes preflop a shove, button should be opening ridiculously wide here &amp; your going to be OOP so calling isn't great. Buttons opening wide enough &amp; your hand is vaguely okay &amp; 8x his raise size is big enough to have a lot of FE but not too big I think.
Flop, stack sizes make this a C/RAI. Primarily looking to extract a cbet from missed overcards.

[levAA]

Shoving preflop 24BB is too much i think.
If villain - as you said - plays straightforward and raises for more than 10% of his stack I would just fold.
Stack-sizes are too shallow to play this low suited connectors oop.
As played I make it 2000 on the flop.

[M1cKmAcK]

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But in NL, should I be seeing a flop here with this hand against a possible stealer? Or do I just get myself in too much trouble?

You get yourself in too much trouble. I just fold pre here.. but I'm a tighty at this stage of the tourney.

[Dunkman]

The problem here is villain's stack size, you're just can't get paid off enough from villain to justify all the times you brick and have to fold.

Obviously you hit a huge hand here, I prefer a CRAI I think since leading is gonna get really weird if he just calls.

[levAA]

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Obviously you hit a huge hand here, I prefer a CRAI I think since leading is gonna get really weird if he just calls.

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Why do you think so. If he just calls we can easily shove any turn.

[Dunkman]

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Obviously you hit a huge hand here, I prefer a CRAI I think since leading is gonna get really weird if he just calls.

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Why do you think so. If he just calls we can easily shove any turn.

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Yeah I mean it's not that bad. However, I think your average is cbetting this flop almost always. If that wasn't the case, I'd like a lead. If we shove the turn I think we're behind his calling range, whereas if we get it in on the flop we're almost always ahead. Him checking behind on the flop would be much worse than him calling a bet from us, so, like I said, if we think that's gonna happen often at all we should just go ahead and lead. I just don't like the idea of 2/3s of the money that goes in on the hand going in on the turn where we're behind if we get called. Finally, I think a lot of cards that make our hand on the turn will kill our action. I just think that getting to the turn with villain having 7-8k behind is gonna be really awkward and I'd like to try to avoid it.