22 - Bottom Set Bet-Sizing

SixForty · #1 10-11-2007, 12:42 AM

Hi all - former small stakes limit player, took a long break from poker, now getting back into playing more, but trying my hand at some no-limit tournaments.

I'd like some feedback on bet-sizing for this hand, as well as my action.

Tournament:
$24+2 Buy-in, Double Stack
Blinds t15/t30
This is the very early stages of a double stack Full Tilt tournament

Reads:
No specific reads on relevant opponents - it's still too early and there hasn't been much action yet.

Stacks:
UTG (t3,000)
UTG+1 (t6,075)
MP1 (t90)
Hero (t2,940)
HJ (t2,850)
CO (t2,640)
BUT (t2,955)
SB (t3,330)
BB (t3,120)

With the microstack going all in for 3xBB, I figured everyone would just treat this like a limped pot.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, UTG+1 raises 90 (All-In), Hero calls 90, HJ calls 90, 2 folds, SB calls 75, 1 fold.

Flop: (t390) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players, 1 all-in)
SB checks, Hero bets 240, HJ calls 240, SB calls 240.

Turn: (t1110) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players, 1 all-in)
SB checks, Hero bets 990, HJ folds, SB calls 990.

River: (t3090) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
SB bets 2,010 (All-In), Hero . . . ?

In looking at it afterwards, I figured that I should probably be betting a bit more on the flop (closer to a pot sized bet), and then a bit less on the turn (closer to 3/4 of a pot sized bet)?

And this river is basically a snap-call, correct?

swede554 · #2 10-11-2007, 01:15 AM

I think it looks ok, but if you want to bet 275-325 on the flop that's fine too. River is a call in a $26, you'll see a worse hand shoving for value or a busted club draw making a desperate (retarded) bluff enough here, though sometimes you'll see an 8xhh type of hand.

SengioKang · #3 10-11-2007, 02:06 AM

be prepared to see 67 68 or 69 hearts and hate your life thereafter for not iso-raising preflop....

action sounds like he had some part of the flop but didn't want to go away. and the flat call instead of a check raise on the turn is supsicious, and can rule out a set.

i like a bigger flop bet and smaller turn bet. 450-500 on the flop and 700 on the turn gets your 1200 in the same way and actually saves some money if you think about it.

you don't have to call tho, still plenty of chips and u get to see what hopeless move he made since microstack is AI

erc007 · #4 10-11-2007, 03:40 AM

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And this river is basically a snap-call, correct?

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I think u have to call this getting 2.5 to 1. Agree about flop and turn bet sizes, but they're close enough.

jchauvin · #5 10-11-2007, 04:48 AM

fold preflop; your implied odds aren't very good.

black666 · #6 10-11-2007, 06:28 AM

Looks good. River is a call getting insane odds. If villain was drawing to a gutshot or flush and got there, make a note to value-bet him hardcore in the future. If he had a monster like 7h6h, more power to him and gg.

Either way .. villain shoves often enough with worse hands to make this call +EV.

black666 · #7 10-11-2007, 06:30 AM

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fold preflop; your implied odds aren't very good.

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?? Why would you fold 22 with 100xBB? There are enough people coming along for the ride to make setmining huge +EV.